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Old 04-22-2014, 01:33 AM
 
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University economics teaching to be overhauled
... in answer to critics who argue that economists failed to spot the 2008 crash because they ignored the impact of financial markets and relied on outdated theories.

A new first year curriculum will be available from the start of the 2014 academic year which will include an in-depth review of economic history and a look at the way financial markets can undermine economic stability.

Wendy Carlin, an economics professor at Univers...ity College London, who heads the project, said several universities had expressed an interest in adopting the new curriculum, including Sydney, Warwick and UCL.
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2013/nov/11/university-economics-teaching-overhaul


Fred Harrison predicted the 2008 crash - he studies the land market. He promotes Geoist economics - the only fair and stable economic system


Max Keiser - Economist Says Current Financial Struture Will Cost Us 10 Year Depression - YouTube

The Forbidden Knowledge

The forbidden knowledge in economics is the land market. There is nothing magical about this. Data about the western European economy tells us that trends repeat every 18 years without fail. Looking at the land market you can see how the heath of the economy is progressing. From this information the turning points in the business cycle can be pinpointed.

The boom bust cycle is programmed into the politics. It used to be a monarchical system, aristocracies economy now it is semi-democratic. The underlying factors are still the same. The best gains are out of LAND, not the stock market, not out of anything else. Over the business cycle the highest capital gains are out of land. That is the secret.

The way the market is structured at the present time we definitely get a boom after 15 years into the cycle and then a bust because debt is created to over exploit that market and the economy has to dip. It has happened every 18 years for the past 200 to 300 years.

Socialized LAND and Privatized WAGES.

The socialisation of LAND is recovering for the community the value we collectively create. Changing the taxes by abolishing taxes on earnings and the profits from the investments from our savings. Privatise the wealth that we create. Let people keep what they produce. Collect from the public sector that shared revenue that chrysalises in the land market as land values, we use that to pay for public services. That's re-socialising what used to be the public revenue and privatising people's wages.

There is an Anglo-American phenomenon, unlike the Germans who do not view their homes as their castles and invest in productive activities. The US and UK culture is to regard their house as their castle and their homes as a nest egg/pension fund.

Political Problem

It is a political problem. They found that when the Liberal government introduced a land value based tax 100 years ago the House of Lords, out of self-interest, simply rejected any attempt at reform.

That culture of making money out of nothing, just by occupying a little bit of land, has seeded through into the democratic system. The UK even has shop workers who have portfolios of buy-to-let properties to make money out of nothing. It is a political problem to inform them that it is against their interests. There hasn't been the political or moral strength of our statesmen for 100 years to change that corrupt method of distributing income.

All Become Richer When Taxes Are Raised From Land Values

In the USA they would be collectively better off by $100s billions per year to share out amongst the population if they made the tax shift from taxing wages and raising revenue from land values. That become an incentive. Everyone becomes richer. In the Tony Blair administration the nation lost wealth and welfare to the tune of one years worth of national income. That pays for a lot of hospitals and schools. Wages would be higher. It takes moral courage by the stewards of our system of government. The people would listen and once informed they would want to make the change.

Taxing Land Values Give Sustainable Economics

If we want a sustainable system of economics and want to be able to compete with the Far East on an equal footing over the next business cycle, the only option is to shift taxes off wages and onto the "values" of land. What would that mean? It would mean that the factory gate products of Western Europe would become more affordable in global markets. Without this tax shift, our goods will continually be undercut by cheap labour produced goods in the Far East.

This future is not sustainable. This what the G20 economies have driven Europe and North America into. A situation of crisis were we will only be able to compete, if the cost structure id changed. The only way we can do that is to implement this tax shift.

Governments have been abysmal in looking after the interests of the advanced countries. They have exposed Europe and North America to a Far Eastern economy that is going to gobble up most of us. We may be in the doldrums for the next 20 years, because our governments have tried to inflate us out of this depression by the very mechanism that brought us into it in the first place. Debt was the way to maintain living standards, not by producing goods that are of any value, but by borrowing and spending.

That is exactly what governments are still doing, piling debt on debt. They have socialised the private debt of land speculators, putting their burden onto future tax payers. What does that mean to the rest of the business cycle? It means the European and North American economies are not fit for purpose. The G20 economies have failed abysmally to take care of their nations.

Doldrums Will Continue

The economy will be in the doldrums for about 10 years, as was the Japanese economy in the 1990s and European and North American in the 1930. Some will make money by latching onto the forbidden knowledge that predicts the trends, but for the rest of us there will be a decline in living standards and lot of unemployment.
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Old 04-22-2014, 01:39 AM
 
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Fred Foldvary also predicted the exact year. Fred also studies the land market and promotes Geoist economics:

"Historically, the real-estate cycle has had a duration of 18 years, aside from the interruption of World War II. That puts the next real estate bottom around 2008."

http://www.progress.org/tpr/foldvary-the-real-estate-bubble/
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:51 AM
 
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The boom bust cycle is programmed into the politics. It used to be a monarchical system, aristocracies economy now it is semi-democratic. The underlying factors are still the same. The best gains are out of LAND, not the stock market, not out of anything else. Over the business cycle the highest capital gains are out of land. That is the secret.
The equity market provides better returns (at least in the USA).

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http://www.theintelligentinvestor.co...d-ibbotson.pdf
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Old 04-22-2014, 03:20 AM
 
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The equity market provides better returns (at least in the USA).
Not in the long term. Also land is super low risk. Speculation in land is very dangerous as it creates world-wide crashes.
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Old 04-22-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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Not in the long term. Also land is super low risk. Speculation in land is very dangerous as it creates world-wide crashes.
Wait, land is super low risk and gives the best gains...but doing so is very dangerous and causes world wide crashes...

Both of those statements being true doesn't make any sense. Without risk you can't have danger or worldwide crashes.
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:01 AM
 
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Wait, land is super low risk and gives the best gains...but doing so is very dangerous and causes world wide crashes...

Both of those statements being true doesn't make any sense. Without risk you can't have danger or worldwide crashes.
They do make sense. The first part is relating to the gains of the speculator. The second is relating to what damage it can do to the economy. What is good for a speculator is not good for the economy.
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:32 AM
 
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Can OP tell me what stock is going to be most valued by going up tomorrow? Crisis are never seen just as people can't see the future often. Speculation is what you think people will want tomorrow or some occurrence effecting supply. Look at weather and think wheat crop will drop because of it; then risk buying and if it comes true you win; if not you likely lose.
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Old 04-22-2014, 03:08 PM
 
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Not in the long term. Also land is super low risk. Speculation in land is very dangerous as it creates world-wide crashes.
I was talking about the long term.
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Old 04-23-2014, 02:33 AM
 
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Speculation is what you think people will want tomorrow or some occurrence effecting supply.
Speculation and investment are not the same thing. Speculation in vital resources can lead to world-wide crashes - as we know. We need an economic system that discourages speculation and promotes investment and productive enterprise.
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Old 04-23-2014, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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Property taxes hurt the poor the most, and contribute to environmental destruction to get the money to pay them. The best way to fund government is by increasing the money supply to match economic growth. If government gets too big it kills innovation and the economy shrinks. Deficits should be outlawed and if they need more money they have to let the economy grow through innovation.
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