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Old 05-09-2014, 02:41 PM
 
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Unemployment Is a Demographic-Based Structural Issue | Michael Shedlock | FINANCIAL SENSE

The author of this article asks a very pointed question, he asks if there is truly an economic recovery where would we find evidence of it?

Well one of the first places we should look is the employment participation rate of the people in the "working age" demographic. That demographic is age 25-54, those out of school, yet but not retired.

And yet when we look at the governments own statistics we find that we are at the lowest level of employment in 30 years and even lower than the so called great recession of 2008.

If the "recovery" continues at the current rate, we can all look forward to increased competition for scarce jobs and the lower wages that goes with that supply / demand divergence.
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The recovery proof is on wall street that is all.
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Old 05-10-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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Well one of the first places we should look is the employment participation rate of the people in the "working age" demographic. That demographic is age 25-54, those out of school, yet but not retired. And yet when we look at the governments own statistics we find that we are at the lowest level of employment in 30 years and even lower than the so called great recession of 2008. If the "recovery" continues at the current rate, we can all look forward to increased competition for scarce jobs and the lower wages that goes with that supply / demand divergence.

LFPR 25-54 Since 1950


Big changes post-2000. Click "Max" to view in context. Interesting, huh.
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Old 05-10-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Where? Look on the charts linked below.

When you see new developments of 100 homes, many new construction cranes building highrise apartments and office buildings, homes selling above asking price with multiple offers within a week, and new cars flying off the lots it does appear to be a recovery. Back about 2008-9 I had 8-10 friends or relatives out of work, 3 of which lost their homes, but now with good jobs.
This is in both the Seattle area, and in the San Francisco Bay area.

Compare cities and states and you will find a great variation in the unemployment rate from 2.6 in North Dakota to 8.7 in Rhode Island. There are 20 states below 6%, 12 below 5%, only 4 over 8%. Plenty of improvement and continuing so far in 2014. of course that doesn't help the people still in that 2.6-8.7 that have no job, but there has never been 100% employment and I can't imagine that there ever will be.

Unemployment Rates for States

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Old 05-10-2014, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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Spend a few hours reading at Calculated Risk
You will feel better.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:07 PM
 
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Since the recovery began

1) the poverty rate has increased

2) the Employment rate has decreased

3) those on food stamps increased

4) median household income has decreased

5) jobs gained are overwhelming part time and/or minimum wage


But at least QE is propping up stocks and holding down the national deficit through less interest on the national debt.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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Welcome to the great sellout of the American working class.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Unemployment Is a Demographic-Based Structural Issue | Michael Shedlock | FINANCIAL SENSE

The author of this article asks a very pointed question, he asks if there is truly an economic recovery where would we find evidence of it?...
You can find indicators of the recovery in the statistics of visitors to Las Vegas and the total gaming revenue per month.

You can also find indicators in furniture sales & shipments.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: San Diego California
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The employment participation rate is the true indicator of the economy. Everything else is hogwash.
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Old 05-11-2014, 12:31 PM
 
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The employment participation rate is the true indicator of the economy. Everything else is hogwash.


The participation rate is going to be higher now than ever because of the boomers leaving the workforce. It doesn't account for all of the drop but certainly some of it
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