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Old 05-12-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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I've read articles saying Japanese people ages 20-30 have lost interest in having kids. Hence their population is going down in terms of the workforce. Some idea or attitude is floating around saying having kids isn't popular or fashionable, is there a reason? It may also be in S. Korea.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:07 PM
 
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The place is so crammed packed, a populaiton decline would be better for everyone there.

Why this is happneing who knows, economic factors I am sure are the leading reason; obtaining housing on top of everything to accomodate having kids is a huge burden.

I look in my own neighborhood, where if a person went from a one bedroom condo to a two bedroom, they are generally adding $600 a month to their rent. If both parents work that is better, but I do not know Japan's situation on how accomodating it is for parents in the workforce; it may be difficult for both parents to have normal jobs and still take care of the kid(s).
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:11 PM
 
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In some places in the world, people are poor yet they keep having so many kids. Maybe they're not thinking of the consequences when they do something.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:53 PM
 
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Japan's economy has been in the dumps for 25 years. Low growth long recessions that went on for years. Started with a real estate bubble. Then a stock market bubble after that. The government did not want the whole house of cards to go down. So they bailed out the banks and big business. No one went to jail for any of this not even the Japanese mafia guys involved in this as well. Everybody got a pass on everything. Big business and the big banks laid off millions of workers. Tons of small business laid off workers as well. The Central of Japan has kept rates at almost zero for 20 years. They have been buying bonds for over 20 years and printing money to dump into the economy. They just had another QE 100'S of millions of yean it never ends. The have bailed out other major industries over the years. Meanwhile 35% to 40% of the population now work as part time workers or as temps. Most young people end up in this boat and living at home for years. Japan has one of the highest cost of living in the world. They can not afford rent let alone a wife and kids. Big business in Japan has been offshoring millions of jobs for years to China and other parts of Asia. When they do have growth it is 1% to 2% a year. Thus this does nothing to help. The Japanese have less sex then almost any other nation on earth. Guess the never ending recessions do not put you in mood. Hope you enjoyed the history lesson. This may sound a lot like another nation you may know.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:23 PM
 
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Our social security system and our fractional reserve banking systems both require perpetually accelerating growth in order to be sustainable. With our banking system, the solution is easy.. just inflate the currency.. but with things like social security, the solution is not so simple... the answer is not to grow our population explosively so we have more young people to pay for the old... the elderly and today's middle aged will HAVE to accept that they will have less purchasing power from social security going forward.

Japan has been stagnant but the US is destined for the same result, after the next large plunge from the reflating of all the bubbles we've had the last couple years.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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The age of which women in the US have kids is rising and I think the birth rate is dropping as well
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:26 PM
 
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Japan is slated to have a reduction of 25% in population by 2050.

In truth, a large number of countries will be undergoing these kinds of reductions, too. China, Singapore, Russia, the EU, Brazil all have fertility rates considerably below that of replacement. Even in places such as India and other developing countries, fertility rates are plummeting.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:28 PM
 
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Our social security system and our fractional reserve banking systems both require perpetually accelerating growth in order to be sustainable. With our banking system, the solution is easy.. just inflate the currency.. but with things like social security, the solution is not so simple... the answer is not to grow our population explosively so we have more young people to pay for the old... the elderly and today's middle aged will HAVE to accept that they will have less purchasing power from social security going forward.


The answer to ss is simple. Tax in more money, send out less or both. Reduce benefits, extend the retirment age and solvency isn't an issue. Look at the life expectancy rates from the 30s to now and you will figure out a lot of the problem
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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The age of which women in the US have kids is rising and I think the birth rate is dropping as well
Immigration is a huge factor in helping the US population grow. Even with our recession (IMO depression) the population will continue to grow because the US is one giant "melting pot" of opportunity viewed by many other nations even today.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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Immigration is a huge factor in helping the US population grow. Even with our recession (IMO depression) the population will continue to grow because the US is one giant "melting pot" of opportunity viewed by many other nations even today.


Post up historic population growth, although that really doesn't have much to do with what I said
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