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Old 07-06-2014, 06:59 PM
 
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Why doesnt the IRS allow transfer of leftover 529 money to Roth accounts when the beneficiary reaches a certain age. It seems like parents are punished for playing it safe and saving more money than what ends up being needed. Is this a far fetched concept. Has it ever been considered?
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Old 07-06-2014, 08:04 PM
 
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Why doesnt the IRS allow transfer of leftover 529 money to Roth accounts when the beneficiary reaches a certain age. It seems like parents are punished for playing it safe and saving more money than what ends up being needed. Is this a far fetched concept. Has it ever been considered?
Because the roth has income limits, the 529 can be front loaded and abused to transfer to roth. I could fund a 529 without ever intending to pay for any kids expenses.
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Old 07-06-2014, 08:17 PM
 
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I started one for my son but I'm almost thinking the hell with it, he can earn the G.I. Bill like I did.
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:14 AM
 
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many families get themselves in to big trouble with college and weddings.

many neglect saving for their own retirement and end up being financial weights on their children because of poor planning.

there are many ways kids can get funding for college but there is not one loan available for your retirement.

college saving is what you do after fully funding retirement each year , not instead of.

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Old 07-07-2014, 04:48 AM
 
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Because the roth has income limits, the 529 can be front loaded and abused to transfer to roth. I could fund a 529 without ever intending to pay for any kids expenses.
That makes sense. What is the logic behind income limits for roths, considering they don't have them for traditional?
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:23 AM
 
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Because the roth has income limits, the 529 can be front loaded and abused to transfer to roth. I could fund a 529 without ever intending to pay for any kids expenses.
There are still ways to get around the Roth income limits. Right now we're looking at whether or not we should do a backdoor Roth IRA.

I don't know if anything the IRS does has to make any sense.
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:32 AM
 
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There are still ways to get around the Roth income limits. Right now we're looking at whether or not we should do a backdoor Roth IRA.

I don't know if anything the IRS does has to make any sense.


Understandable but you can't jam 50k into one this year so there are still heavy limitations
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:07 AM
 
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Understandable but you can't jam 50k into one this year so there are still heavy limitations
Agreed. My main point was about the IRS not having to make any sense, in general.

"Here's this restriction. Now here's this way to get around this restriction, only you'll need to file more paperwork."
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