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Old 07-08-2014, 08:17 PM
 
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The jobs in this area being posted are by and large not offering more than 30k/year for the vast majority (like 80-90 percent).

I don't know how people are getting by out there. Day care, food, etc costs etc.. How are you doing it?
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Old 07-08-2014, 11:18 PM
 
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I don't know why people to bother having kids in the first place. Why struggle to raise kids? Isn't that why they invented birth control?
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Old 07-09-2014, 12:04 AM
 
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Two incomes!
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Old 07-09-2014, 12:13 AM
 
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Nuclear Engineering Degree.

I'm good. And thanks BTW, your tax dollars trained me, and I just had to give a few years of my life to the defense of America in return.
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Old 07-09-2014, 12:20 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
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Two incomes!
^ What Waterlily Pad said. Every couple I know who's raising kids has two incomes and are being frugal because they have no other choice.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I don't know why people to bother having kids in the first place. Why struggle to raise kids? Isn't that why they invented birth control?
Having kids is not something people do for fun. They do it because they want to - they think having children is important. I suspect that at an anthropology level it is at least somewhat programmed into our DNA.

Having kids and struggling is not so smart though. It is not only hard work, it creates a challenging environment for children.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Having kids is not something people do for fun. They do it because they want to - they think having children is important. I suspect that at an anthropology level it is at least somewhat programmed into our DNA.

Having kids and struggling is not so smart though. It is not only hard work, it creates a challenging environment for children.
Bolded: I don't agree. I'm pretty sure at least some do.

I do not think anyone should have children unless one or both parents is bringing home at least 100K salary in a steady job, health insurance, and at least 50K in the bank.

Personally, I do not think having children is worth it but I have a very pessimistic outlook on the future. I'm glad I decided not to have them.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:34 AM
 
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People cut back on entertainment, dining out, etc. and usually do it with two incomes these days. It's getting harder and harder for many Americans, though.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:40 AM
 
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The jobs in this area being posted are by and large not offering more than 30k/year for the vast majority (like 80-90 percent).

I don't know how people are getting by out there. Day care, food, etc costs etc.. How are you doing it?
No need for day care if there is only one earner and the other parent can stay at home. If two earners, they aren't limited to just the 30k/year you mention, so day care is less of an issue.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Two incomes!
Yep, and many are just getting by. You'll notice a lot of new parents cut back on the things they used to do prior to bearing a child.

I've wondered the same thing about how people can afford the homes in my local market. Then it clicked. They're getting married and using two incomes to pay the mortgage. It's probably also the reason why homes seem out of the price range of single people like me. The scales are tilted towards couples.
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