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Old 08-14-2014, 06:39 AM
 
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317,000,000 x 10000 =

3,170,000,000,000 =

about 3.5 trillion per year.

definitely CHEAPER than bailing out the banks dont you think?

that was 20-30 trillion dollars to bail them out

remember that the FED had 20-30 trillion in 0% loans to FOREIGN BANKS like the
terrorist HSBC and banks that engage in funding + money laundering- terrorism and drug lords to survive.

as a result which one is really expensive I wonder eh?

More than 3-4 trillion is likely lost per year thanks to the terrorist banking that the FED and associates conduct.
I would certainly rather have the money given to the people rather than the criminals as a result.
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Old 08-14-2014, 09:15 AM
 
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317,000,000 x 10000 =

3,170,000,000,000 =

about 3.5 trillion per year.

definitely CHEAPER than bailing out the banks dont you think?

that was 20-30 trillion dollars to bail them out

remember that the FED had 20-30 trillion in 0% loans to FOREIGN BANKS like the
terrorist HSBC and banks that engage in funding + money laundering- terrorism and drug lords to survive.

as a result which one is really expensive I wonder eh?

More than 3-4 trillion is likely lost per year thanks to the terrorist banking that the FED and associates conduct.
I would certainly rather have the money given to the people rather than the criminals as a result.
Me thinks you confuse trillion with billion...also 3.1 trillion is not 3.5 trillion.
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Old 08-14-2014, 11:32 AM
 
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317,000,000 x 10000 =

3,170,000,000,000 =

about 3.5 trillion per year.

definitely CHEAPER than bailing out the banks dont you think?

that was 20-30 trillion dollars to bail them out

remember that the FED had 20-30 trillion in 0% loans to FOREIGN BANKS like the
terrorist HSBC and banks that engage in funding + money laundering- terrorism and drug lords to survive.

as a result which one is really expensive I wonder eh?

More than 3-4 trillion is likely lost per year thanks to the terrorist banking that the FED and associates conduct.
I would certainly rather have the money given to the people rather than the criminals as a result.
$5,583,802,495,000

That's the amount of "taxable income" according to IRS SOI.

That would be an effective tax rate of 56% on the entire country up from about 20% or so.

Good luck with that.
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Old 08-14-2014, 12:04 PM
 
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The other problem is "freedom of personal choice".

We live in a society that keep forcing majority wills on the people.

Now we are forcing people to donate their own money and forcing people to accept other people's money.

Like I said, limit fed's power and let states do the experiments. So we have choices.
No, we live in a society that is preaching the religion of hyperindividualism.

I'm sick of letting red states experiment with their little fantasies. I'm sick of paying for their welfare!
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Old 08-14-2014, 04:23 PM
 
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No, we live in a society that is preaching the religion of hyperindividualism.

I'm sick of letting red states experiment with their little fantasies. I'm sick of paying for their welfare!
Well, they're probably pretty sick of feeding you so I'm sure the feeling is mutual.
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Old 08-14-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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No, we live in a society that is preaching the religion of hyperindividualism.

I'm sick of letting red states experiment with their little fantasies. I'm sick of paying for their welfare!

Then help the red state voters get rid of the government entitlement state and a return to limited government. And I'll be holding my breath on that one.
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Old 08-14-2014, 06:34 PM
 
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Then help the red state voters get rid of the government entitlement state and a return to limited government. And I'll be holding my breath on that one.
Help them impoverish themselves further, shrink the economy, and lead to even greater inequality in the most unequal advanced economy in the world? I think not.
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Old 08-14-2014, 11:14 PM
 
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Help them impoverish themselves further, shrink the economy, and lead to even greater inequality in the most unequal advanced economy in the world? I think not.

Yes of course. Let's keep doing what we're doing, and watch the happiness index explode into the stratosphere.
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Old 08-16-2014, 02:02 PM
 
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People are already getting more than that in unemployment, welfare, food stamps and subsidized housing. All that would do is encourage even more people to take advantage of a low income but leisurely lifestyle collecting benefits rather than work minimum wage jobs. It would also be going to those doing illegal activities making more than you and I but without reportable income that don't pay taxes, and the homeless panhandlers that make $200/day cash.

ALL income is reportable.
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Old 08-16-2014, 02:07 PM
 
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You made an ausmption that rich people will have income for your income.
The rich people are rich and they might choose to have no income, then where you are going to get your income? Rob them?

??? Moore opportunities for the rest of us to earn income? You know, doing the jobs the rich won't do?
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