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Old 08-21-2014, 05:34 AM
 
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Yes it does. Of course an ignorant person wouldn't know that. By the way, Mexican is not a race, it's an ethnicity. Just a little word to the wise there.


I am aware Mexican isn't a race and no where did I mention anything of the sort. Typing mexcio vs Mexico certainly does not show ignorance. You still haven't addressed your ignorance about birthrates in Mexico or their net immigration
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Old 08-21-2014, 08:42 AM
 
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Clarify the exact meaning of a nationality. Is everyone born in Mexico a Mexican, and that is their nationality, even if their parents are WASPs or Arabs? What about those born outside Mexico, but born in the Mexican diaspora? Is their nationality Mexican or that of the country they're born in? Is a nationality permanent? I.e. "once a Mexican, always a Mexican, no matter where they are, nor for how many years, nor what citizenship they have." Or is it only what country they live in at the moment?

Is Aztec an ethnicity? What percentage of Mexicans are at least part Aztec?

I think the terms are ambiguous and confusing. For example the Cherokees were at one time called the Cherokee Nation. Was that their nationality? Or their ethnicity?

Terms such as nation, nation state, state, country, ethnicity: they all seem to get conflated, confused, etc., to the point where people who argue about them tend to be arguing about different things and going in circles because of those differences.
Mexican is not a race.
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:16 AM
 
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Clarify the exact meaning of a nationality. Is everyone born in Mexico a Mexican, and that is their nationality, even if their parents are WASPs or Arabs? What about those born outside Mexico, but born in the Mexican diaspora? Is their nationality Mexican or that of the country they're born in? Is a nationality permanent? I.e. "once a Mexican, always a Mexican, no matter where they are, nor for how many years, nor what citizenship they have." Or is it only what country they live in at the moment?

Is Aztec an ethnicity? What percentage of Mexicans are at least part Aztec?

I think the terms are ambiguous and confusing. For example the Cherokees were at one time called the Cherokee Nation. Was that their nationality? Or their ethnicity?

Terms such as nation, nation state, state, country, ethnicity: they all seem to get conflated, confused, etc., to the point where people who argue about them tend to be arguing about different things and going in circles because of those differences.

Choke cherries are like wild black cherry which are often confused. They are both related to domesticated bing cherries , also related to any Prunus like plums and peaches. They are alike but different. However it is also true that they will all die in the desert. Welcome to the real world where there are differences that are slight and subtle while others are enormous and decisive.
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:33 AM
 
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We need to keep birth rates at a reasonable healthy level and yet not implode this country's and its people's finances.

The first child is incentivized as it is. Starting the second one, the government should stop incentives.

This will:
Help families make better financial decisions and build wealth in the long run
Focus resources on the quality of education instead of quantity of children
Reduce tax payers burden and allocate resources to where they should go
Lower socioeconomic parent(s) who have more than 1 child, are less likely to understand/care about an incentive program before having child 2, 3, 4, 5.... so incentive will not work.

Higher socioeconomic parent(s) who have more than 1 child, will more likely understand the incentive program, but likely not care about the added expense of additional children....so incentive will not work.

The way to reduce birth rates would be to heavily incentivize implanted birth control/sterilization, but that would not be too pc... Or follow the Swift plan advocated in "A Modest Proposal"... also not too pc.

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