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This kind of post is the best evidence that our school system is a failure. How is it that you do not understand that everyone - including people without children - also benefits from public education?
Just because everyone "benefits" from public education doesn't mean that it's the same benefit at the same meaningful level.
The rich spends and service jobs are created. Should the poor then celebrate how the rich benefit them?
Criticism of public schools comes from predictable sources. In general, these include all the free-rider piglets -- naked self-servers who want to partake of the full measure of society's bounty while helping to pay for exactly none of it. Down at the pixel level here, we have people who (in fear of things like evolution, global warming, diversity, positive self-image, new math, and whole word language instruction), have already decided to home-school their children or pack them off to the safety of sectarian schools. Now they want to feed at the public trough so that, instead of them, the rest of us can be the ones to pick up the tab for those personal choices and decisions. Did I mention piglets already?
Instead of everyone paying for public education, we could have a public school tax. Those who use public schools and services would pay the tax to the extent of the services they want. The right people, paying the right tax, for the right services. We need particularization.
You DO realize that this would mean the death of fuhbawl and bassitbawl, right?
As a result our children would end up not being distracted, their priorities will be re-arranged, Cheerleading will no longer be considered a viable career, coaches will no longer be celebrated, and schools will become half as expensive as they are now.
But no, I don't think that parents and parents alone should pay for it. The public benefits from a well educated adolescent population, so the public should pay. A little. And Bassitbawl and Fuhbawl should be left to the municipalities.
Do you get out much
Have you heard of teacher unions? (most powerful...)
Since I homeschooled AND volunteered in public Edu... I have been paying PLENTY ($40/day) in property taxes for a failed system of EDU for 50 yrs, and as an employer of a very poorly educated workforce I pay double (from mistakes and inefficiencies of the under educated).
It is a bogus system and money talks!!! (and is not going AWAY from public Edu)
Wishful thinking?
USA needs a solution and it is NOT gonna be cheap.
Need a suggestion? Outsource USA EDU! To one of many countries we owe!
Criticism of public schools comes from predictable sources. In general, these include all the free-rider piglets -- naked self-servers who want to partake of the full measure of society's bounty while helping to pay for exactly none of it. Down at the pixel level here, we have people who (in fear of things like evolution, global warming, diversity, positive self-image, new math, and whole word language instruction), have already decided to home-school their children or pack them off to the safety of sectarian schools. Now they want to feed at the public trough so that, instead of them, the rest of us can be the ones to pick up the tab for those personal choices and decisions. Did I mention piglets already?
Non sense. The parenting lobbyists preferential treatment is precisely imposing the cost of one lifestyle over people who live marginalized lifestyles. This is not just the fear of diversity. It's a blunt attack on diversity of ways of living. The minority subsidizing the mostly heteronormative majority who can't wait to wave their flag with no embarrassment. Of course the people use more and pay less want everybody to ignore the differences. It's like men asking women to ignore their lower income than men. Yeah right.
Incentivizing people to have more children is not environmentally friendly either. It goes against the agenda of combating global warming, despite pretensions of trying to address the environmental disaster. Instead,the public should subsidize environmentally irresponsible behaviors.
And it's often the people who are crazed about having children that are hyper religious, anti evolution, homophobic, you name it. In other words, they look at those without a family and say "you are not one of us."
Who are the free riders. The answer is very clear. It's those who think they deserve the privilege they want other people to pay for. Yeah, they built that! It's the lack of a sense of shame. This society has spoiled people to an extent that they no longer think critically, recognize gifts given to them. Instead, they would rather complain like children do when they want another ice cream. It's no surprise that this nation is going down. It comes down to the fact that people refuse to pay their fair share. Their sense of fairness is intoxicated by their greed and privilege.
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Instead of everyone paying for public education, we could have a public school tax. Those who use public schools and services would pay the tax to the extent of the services they want. The right people, paying the right tax, for the right services. We need particularization.
That could be said of many things especially going to more local taxes over federal dollars and state dollars. Schools at one time where mostly locally funded. But education is likely to continue being one of general funded things over many others as it brings national wealth as a investment. Of course education is seeing and will continue to see a lot of changes. IMO;its mostly the wealth sharing programs started in the mid 60;s next on chopping block. because they have failed to promote the people using it.
Just because everyone "benefits" from public education doesn't mean that it's the same benefit at the same meaningful level.
The rich spends and service jobs are created. Should the poor then celebrate how the rich benefit them?
Right, that makes a lot of sense. I think you clearly did not benefit from public education enough. Have you ever been to a country where public education is not widely available? Do you understand the effect that has on a society? I'm guessing no.
Instead of everyone paying for public education, we could have a public school tax. Those who use public schools and services would pay the tax to the extent of the services they want. The right people, paying the right tax, for the right services. We need particularization.
Kinda goes against a free and compulsory education, doesn't it?
Actually, once you normalize outcomes to account for poverty rates in school districts - we have more geographically concentrated poverty than most developed nations - we have among the best educational outcomes in the world however you slice it. So the fellow ranting earlier on in this threat about teacher's unions and paying for bad education is peddling nonsense.
Costaexpress is too. His is an underlying notion that we aren't all in it together and that broad social investment in services available to all should be stopped. The notion of shared social responsibility is the underlying sentiment that has created the most prosperous societies in history. If your proposals were instituted for most services, children of the poor and middle class - who already receive back a very small share of their vast contributions to our society - would be totally screwed.
Sounds, once again, like an attempt to avoid paying taxes, rather than an an effort to improve one's station in life.
I worked with a guy who was single and childless and spent an inordinate amount of time complaining about paying for public schools. He was a poor performer who refused to improve his performance and eventually was let go. Soon thereafter he was diagnosed with MS. Now he is on the public dole. One of life's little ironies that he is basically being supported by tax dollars now. He never saw it coming.
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(most powerful...)
To one of many countries we owe!
