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How can this be done? Easy. A change of thinking. There is no better state than Nevada for the state government to tell the dealers: You are free! Good luck!
And are you of the same mind about Realtors? No profession is more propped up by law than real estate. Every state has laws protecting the profession. Surely you can guess what would happen to the industry if all the government protections were removed, wholesale?
Or are we going to pick and choose what constitutes good statism and bad statism?
And are you of the same mind about Realtors? No profession is more propped up by law than real estate. Every state has laws protecting the profession. Surely you can guess what would happen to the industry if all the government protections were removed, wholesale?
Or are we going to pick and choose what constitutes good statism and bad statism?
Yes, I am in favor of the state not protecting the real estate sales industry in any way, shape, or form. Leave me alone. Let the chips fall where they may.
And are you of the same mind about Realtors? No profession is more propped up by law than real estate. Every state has laws protecting the profession. Surely you can guess what would happen to the industry if all the government protections were removed, wholesale?
Or are we going to pick and choose what constitutes good statism and bad statism?
What are you talking about? The problem with RE Agents is that entry is too easy...not too hard. I suggest to people it is such a simple profession to enter that anyone considering any amount of real estate activity should simply get licensed. (Which if I remember is exactly what Scoop did)
Virtually all the regulation I see is directed at protecting the public though that is not done very well.
Anyone following the drive by Switch to get similar breaks in the south? And what happens when the Genting Group wants the same for the new Casino on the Echelon site.
There is also at least one real payout by the northern citizen. Apparently the agreement on electric costs will cost the average rate payer a buck or so a month. So we now have real cost rather than simple tax abatement.
You submit the current level of education debt that exists under a system of public education. You submit irresponsible parents who operate in a system that rewards and encourages irresponsibility.
I am going to guess you attended public schools. With perfect attendance I might add, judging by your posts.
Yet, you believe that these same people would suddenly become "encouraged" to pay for the best education for their children. Let us not forget that these are people who had EIGHTEEN years to figure out the best way to provide higher education for their offspring and decided that debt was the best plan. Laughable.
No one forced them to set their priorities in such a way that they chose to saddle their children with debt, in favor of short term gratification. What kind of goofy logic is that? People are short-sighted and greedy and the libertarian vision would further enable such reckless, self-centered behavior. The only difference might be a change in the balance of who was screwing who. Instead of big government and regulations, we would have a massive legal system and ever expanding prison population, as people were set loose with enough rope to hang themselves and all measures became punitive as opposed to preventative.
The current level of education debt clearly illustrates exactly what people will do in the real world, as opposed to libertarian fantasies of Utopia that bear no resemblance to any observable phenomenon. And people do the same thing all over the world under every system (except your imaginary one).
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Was Somalia an experiment in freedom where rational citizens assembled to formulate an advanced new society with minimal government? I hadn't heard that.
I was under the impression that it was a backward mystical anti-culture where mobs and brigands and pirates had overrun the inept dictatorship in place and introduced anarchy, murder, and savage jungle rule, with violence and destruction employed as implements of statesmanship.
Maybe I need to do more research...
Your research has failed you miserably thus far. Perhaps, you should get out more?
Then there is the fact you took a humorous jab as factual and responded as such, which speaks to comprehension.
Perhaps, an artifact of that non-public education you hold in such great regard?
The fact is the libertarians trade in "what ifs". Implausible claims that cannot be proven by any real world evidence or historical precedent that applies to modern developed nations. Heck, your best icons are fiction writers and folks like Rand Paul, an immature man child, who rides on his father's coat tails.
Then there is Ron Paul himself. Let's assume for just a moment that he was completely unaware that his pal Lew Rockwell was making a living distributing hate mail (for 10 years) with Ron's name all over it. That would make him a complete idiot, being a man with high level political aspirations. Ten years and no one called it to his attention. And his good buddy, Lew, just sold him on down the river. Which speaks to being a poor judge of character in choosing one's close associates, at the very least.
I can assure you that if I was a prominent doctor with political aspirations, I would most certainly know what was being distributed bearing my moniker! Despite my lowly public school education.
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Yes, I am in favor of the state not protecting the real estate sales industry in any way, shape, or form. Leave me alone. Let the chips fall where they may.
Your plan, if enacted, would certainly lead to anarchy.
I'd like to see car sales reformed. I'd like to see real estate reformed. Allowing more competition would allow the best ideas and practices to win out. But that's the extent of my idea of reformation -- allow more competition. Competition is good for everyone.
Gutting all regulation would lead to every conniving grifter in America lining up to fleece the ignorant. The ignorant may not be very bright. But there's a whole lot of them. You don't want to get a whole lot of ignorant people angry. The results are NEVER good.
Scoop's economic plan:
1) No more tax breaks for taking business outside the US. And no more parking assets offshore as tax dodges. No more cruise ships registered in Liberia and Panama. No more taxpayer-funded baseball stadiums. No more sweetheart deals. Period. No. Sweetheart. Deals.
2) A company or proprietor who wishes to do business and make money in America must play by the same rules as every other business and proprietor. Profits are at record highs. The stock market is at record highs. So obviously companies can afford to do business without taxpayer subsidies. We're not even talking about a gigantic chunk of change for any given company. They have learned that it's cheaper to buy legislators than pay taxes. That needs to end, also.
3) Companies and proprietors who balk at this plan are free to leave, and sell their products to all the other nations that AREN'T the world's sole economic superpower.
The United States is currently THE market. China will eventually supplant us. But for now, we're it. California alone is more powerful economically than Russia -- and only slightly behind Italy. Corporations should not have the United States over a barrel. We should have THEM over the barrel. It worked just fine in the 1950s and 1960s. American business ruled the world even with corporate taxes that today would cause a panic. And companies -- while not perfect -- paid more of their fair share than they do now. We don't have to dial it back to 1960. But it's time for the pendulum to swing back to "fair play."
Today the middle class taxpayer and the small business owner shoulder a disproportional amount of the burden. We're going to lose our position as THE market if that doesn't change.
Your plan, if enacted, would certainly lead to anarchy.
I'd like to see car sales reformed. I'd like to see real estate reformed. Allowing more competition would allow the best ideas and practices to win out. But that's the extent of my idea of reformation -- allow more competition. Competition is good for everyone.
Gutting all regulation would lead to every conniving grifter in America lining up to fleece the ignorant. The ignorant may not be very bright. But there's a whole lot of them. You don't want to get a whole lot of ignorant people angry. The results are NEVER good.
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This is exactly where the libertarian dream devolves into a nightmare. They start with things that no rational person would disagree with: lower taxes, less regulation, improved competition and restricted government interference in our lives. Then they jump to the conclusion that people will act rationally and in a socially acceptable fashion when no one is looking. That leap of faith is what make the entire pitch inane.
Every libertarian I have ever conversed with starts with the premise that "the rest of us" are in favor of higher taxes and increased regulation, as if there can be no balance in between that and total dissolution of government. Which is absurd.
Although, I do strongly support a reform of real estate sales practices in New Jersey, leading to much lower commissions and eventually the elimination of real estate agents in favor of fixed fee real estate transactions. Whatcha think, Scoop?
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