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A single person in Stamford, Connecticut earning $26.75/hour or $53,490 annually has taxpayers paying their rent via HUD Section 8.
If $26.75/hour is not a "Living Wage" then what is?
Not impressed...
Mircea
Are you aware that the vast majority of renters who qualify for HUD rental assistance...do not receive it? It's not an entitlement and the supply of rent subsidies is very limited.
I couldn't even get ON the Section 8 waiting list, let alone get a Section 8 voucher. And I was below 30% of median family income at the time.
Perhaps instead of attacking the fast food workers for asking for better pay, we should use this as an economic indicator that something is fundamentally wrong in the economy. These people are our fellow Americans and workers, if they could take a better job then they would. We are being pitted against each other to fight over scraps and its working.
The market is the market. Those people need to get beyond basic labor if they want more than market will bear. At 15 dollars they can easily be automated out. What they do isn't rocket science. Telling the truth isn't attacking anyone.
I agree. The jobs in my area tend to mostly be fast food and retail, some factory and warehouse jobs too that aren't much good for anything. The pay is also going down hill. The mall use to have more stable retail in it. Now, businesses in the mall are closing down or switching elsewhere. They don't seem to last.
Ecommerce happened.
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Life isn't fair.
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They are then often stuck there because a few years experience at a fast food joint is not enough to get any kind of real job, and you can't exactly save up for college anymore with those kinds of funds since they barely pay the bills.
You don't have to go to college to get a good job. Have you seen what the trades pay (plumber, electrician, welding, working in the oil fields in the Dakotas, ect.)? And you can't outsource those things.
Germany has managed to avoid sinking into a service-based economy. They're in high-precision, high-quality manufacturing. How do they manage? Higher education and technical training are free, that's how. People can train for the factory jobs that now require some computer-based engineering skills, so the country can muster the human resources for those skilled jobs. The US can't do that. Job re-training is hard to come by.
But not everyone gets to go higher education and technical training.
They aren't defending anything they are angry that people like you want us to fund poor people's health care and incomes.
If you want some money get your own its pretty simple
Which you would not have to do if employers were paying a decent wage. For some reason people like you are okay with companies paying very little but then when employees have to then turn to government you make a big deal about it. Sorry you can not have it both ways.
You don't have to go to college to get a good job. Have you seen what the trades pay (plumber, electrician, welding, working in the oil fields in the Dakotas, ect.)? And you can't outsource those things.
Not everyone can do those jobs they require you to be good with your hands and good at fixing things and some people just are not. Plus how many of those jobs are gonna be left when a bunch of people train for them?
The market is the market. Those people need to get beyond basic labor if they want more than market will bear. At 15 dollars they can easily be automated out. What they do isn't rocket science. Telling the truth isn't attacking anyone.
Saying the market is the market is a lazy argument. Many people do get past basic labor but still get paid low wages.
The unfortunate fact is ..... Personal service is something everyone loves to get, but few of us have much enthusiasm for providing. And when people have income beyond what's needed for the physical necessities, the next of their wants usually involve somebody else's time, attention, and subjugation.
Hence, industrialized First World societies have to import labor from less-advanced nations, or force it upon those at the bottom of the totem pole, Older people usually have more experience at making ends meet, or a greater sense of everyday self-reliance. So the unwanted jobs gravitate toward the young, the inexperienced, and those who simply expect too much.
Continued progress in those parts of the world less hampered by bureaucracy and over-regulation is only going to intensify the pressure. We did this to ourselves.
I stopped when they said 2 out of 3 are between the ages of 20 and 54. Do people realize you can't afford nice stuff, especially if you have kids and a wife to feed on minimum wage?
I stopped when they said 2 out of 3 are between the ages of 20 and 54. Do people realize you can't afford nice stuff, especially if you have kids and a wife to feed on minimum wage?
True, but until fairy recently, employers often displayed an open prejudice toward the unencumbered, and many probably still harbor it in secret. My first "real" job, back in 1973, went sour in large part because despite satisfactory performance, my boss promoted several other people and informed me that I could expect no advancement as long as I remained unmarried.
The emancipation of women, the two-career couple and the acceptance of the LGBT culture has greatly diminished this pressure in some areas, but it likely remains strong in the Deep South, in smaller communities, and among the Religious Right.
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