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Old 11-09-2019, 07:12 AM
Status: "State of Satisfied Bliss and Indifference" (set 26 days ago)
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Capitalism in the US is such a failure that even the poorest people not only have water, fuel, electricity, housing, plumbing, sanitation and health care services, but also access to credit to buy shiny gadgets like smart phones and fancy cars. You have to be severely mentally ill to miss out on the opportunity of easy access to those benefits, even unearned, in the United States.

As others have mentioned, the real purposes of communism or socialism or any system with few in power is:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg&t=156s
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Old 11-10-2019, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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Capitalism in the US is such a failure that even the poorest people not only have water, fuel, electricity, housing, plumbing, sanitation and health care services, but also access to credit to buy shiny gadgets like smart phones and fancy cars. You have to be severely mentally ill to miss out on the opportunity of easy access to those benefits, even unearned, in the United States.

As others have mentioned, the real purposes of communism or socialism or any system with few in power is:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg&t=156s
The poorest of the poor are the homeless who by definition don't have those things because they don't have houses. The U.S. doesn't allow for favela-type housing. Within any metro's boundaries, they'll tear that stuff down if you try.

Having indoor plumbing,, etc... doesn't say much when you have to pay more to have a house off-grid. Being off the grid is a luxury.

It's like saying all cars are luxurious because they have automatic transmissions. Well, we live in a world now where manual transmissions are a premium feature for sports cars. You can't buy a cheap manual car anymore. They are all automatics.
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Old 11-16-2019, 12:37 PM
 
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many of us do not know how to drive car with manual transmission.
some dont even know what to do with a mechanical watch?
Some dont know how to cook a raw chicken or pot roast?
Some dont know how to shorten their hemline?
One day I was riding the apt elevator with a newly wed couple after work,,we were both doing laundry in the basement.
The hubby was restless and kept punching his wife in the arm,she said to me 'Now,he wants to eat?'
Well,what 's for dinner?
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Old 11-19-2019, 01:23 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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The poorest of the poor are the homeless who by definition don't have those things because they don't have houses. The U.S. doesn't allow for favela-type housing. Within any metro's boundaries, they'll tear that stuff down if you try.

Having indoor plumbing,, etc... doesn't say much when you have to pay more to have a house off-grid. Being off the grid is a luxury.

It's like saying all cars are luxurious because they have automatic transmissions. Well, we live in a world now where manual transmissions are a premium feature for sports cars. You can't buy a cheap manual car anymore. They are all automatics.
Yet they allow cardboard, pallet and plastic "houses", as I see every day when getting onto the freeway from work in Seattle. Those agencies working with the homeless claim that addiction, the criminal justice system and mental health are stopping them from solving the problem. Too may are perfectly happy living under the freeway where they can do what they want and have no rules to follow.








The "official" well organized homeless camps have some similar problems but often are people that have jobs and just haven't saved enough for the 1st/last month rent or don't make enough to afford rent in this city. I don't see a solution any time soon, it takes far too much time and money to address each homeless person/family individually.


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Old 11-19-2019, 03:16 PM
 
Location: WA
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I volunteered some years ago to help with homeless and quit in frustration as the majority I dealt with were not motivated to change the behavior that got them into the situation. I found that addiction, mental health, emotional issues, simple lack of motivation, and refusal to work for a low wage and budget stopped most from making progress. I hope that some organization finds a breakthrough to move forward but I know I was not capable.
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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And why does the best innovation and technology come from the USA also?
Exactly what I always say. Why is it that virtually anything worth buying was invented here in the US or in Asia (South Korea and Japan, specifically, both with US influence and protection!)? Why is it that Europe is supposedly so great in the liberal mind but nothing whatsoever useful ever comes out of that entire continent?! Everyone is using Facebook, Apple phones, Android phones, IBM computers, Apple computers, watching US movies, even US music and TV shows reach worldwide. I’m sure not using any European technology literally ever, oh but I can go buy cheaply made garbage at IKEA if I want a taste of European “innovation.” It’s hard to innovate when MEN are given 6 weeks off because they knocked someone up or when an average work week is 28-32 hours. These people don’t want to work, they want a 3-hour long siesta every day and months of vacation. They’re lazy.

For all that we hear about how great European education is, why so little useful production?? If their education system was really so fantastic, shouldn’t they be turning out more innovative products and companies? I’d rather have a society where the dumbest people are truly morons but the smartest are successful geniuses than these pitiful European nations where everyone is just mediocre. The only people I can imagine who wish for socialism are mediocre people, losers, who know they can’t ever be on top and want to make sure everyone else is as mediocre as they are. Sorry, no thanks!
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Exactly what I always say. Why is it that virtually anything worth buying was invented here in the US or in Asia (South Korea and Japan, specifically, both with US influence and protection!)? Why is it that Europe is supposedly so great in the liberal mind but nothing whatsoever useful ever comes out of that entire continent?! Everyone is using Facebook, Apple phones, Android phones, IBM computers, Apple computers, watching US movies, even US music and TV shows reach worldwide. I’m sure not using any European technology literally ever, oh but I can go buy cheaply made garbage at IKEA if I want a taste of European “innovation.” It’s hard to innovate when MEN are given 6 weeks off because they knocked someone up or when an average work week is 28-32 hours. These people don’t want to work, they want a 3-hour long siesta every day and months of vacation. They’re lazy.

For all that we hear about how great European education is, why so little useful production?? If their education system was really so fantastic, shouldn’t they be turning out more innovative products and companies? I’d rather have a society where the dumbest people are truly morons but the smartest are successful geniuses than these pitiful European nations where everyone is just mediocre. The only people I can imagine who wish for socialism are mediocre people, losers, who know they can’t ever be on top and want to make sure everyone else is as mediocre as they are. Sorry, no thanks!
Great post, very accurate. Especially the bolded.

Europe really does nothing but soak up our resources while they frolic around and claim superiority. We pay for their defense, even, and they still aren't very innovative. All their socialism crap, government interference, allegedly "works" because they know big brother across the pond won't let a fly harm them. That costs us money. Being the world's police ain't cheap.

Could not care less what smug Europeans think of the USA, we babysit them and keep them safe and half of them (most?) aren't even aware of that fact.
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Old 11-21-2019, 04:13 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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For all that we hear about how great European education is, why so little useful production?? If their education system was really so fantastic, shouldn’t they be turning out more innovative products and companies? I’d rather have a society where the dumbest people are truly morons but the smartest are successful geniuses than these pitiful European nations where everyone is just mediocre. The only people I can imagine who wish for socialism are mediocre people, losers, who know they can’t ever be on top and want to make sure everyone else is as mediocre as they are. Sorry, no thanks!
Great post, very accurate. Especially the bolded.

Europe really does nothing but soak up our resources while they frolic around and claim superiority. We pay for their defense, even, and they still aren't very innovative. All their socialism crap, government interference, allegedly "works" because they know big brother across the pond won't let a fly harm them. That costs us money. Being the world's police ain't cheap.

Could not care less what smug Europeans think of the USA, we babysit them and keep them safe and half of them (most?) aren't even aware of that fact.
Another reason for that is that the spunkiest, most innovative Europeans moved here after North America (and Australia) opened for business. The people who want to prattle and lecture stayed behind and we don't need them. There's a reason we are here and they are (still) there. And from their imports of backwards, uneducated and unskilled people they don't want to work either.

I don't know why Americans feel the need to seek European or "world" approval.
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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I don't know why Americans feel the need to seek European or "world" approval.
Anyone who does is a weak loser in my eyes. Be proud. I don't care if the world hates us-- cut them all off.
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Old 11-21-2019, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Anyone who does is a weak loser in my eyes. Be proud. I don't care if the world hates us-- cut them all off.
Amen to this.
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