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Companies around the country are laying off people left and right. New jobs that are created are in Lopane service sector. The days when you could work for one company for 30 years and retire on the patients are gone. Now you need to go back to school several times to get the skills for a career. Profession technology change constantly. You may have to return to school to get another degree or certificate or an even lower level of degree just to get the skills for a job. there's no such thing as going to college and then working and they're retiring. It is lifelong learning now. You could be laid off in your 30s 40s 50s and 60s. And if you don't have enough saved, you will not fare well.
Delay your gratification and focus on accumulating wealth.
Move to a place with a reasonable cost of living and access to jobs.
Do not have a family. You can be laid off at any time and you may have trouble looking for a job. You may not even have the money to get the educational training to potentially get a new job. Your family will suffer and will struggle. You need to cut down your expenses and cost. You need to right size yourself. You need to streamline your life. You need to increase the efficiency of life. You need to embrace minimalism.
Yes singles pay A disproportionately amount of tax. But it's much easier, simpler, then having a family and being a member of a dying class. You will have disposable income. You will have the peace of mind.
Just don't create a family. The government cannot use violence to force you to form a family. Just don't do it.
This is very depressing. I do agree with you about our economy, the US is in steep decline and the millennial can expect nothing but dwindling resources as they grow older. However asking them not to have families will fall on deaf ears. In fact it will anger them, and in a way I wouldn't blame them. This economic problem was left to them by older generations, and they already hold bad feelings about it. It may sound like responsible advice to ask people who cannot afford to support families to not have children, but when the reason they cannot make the money to support them is not their fault and cannot be fixed in the forseable future I think they will simply ignore the advice. What will they do??? they will have children anyway and continue to do what they have been doing. They will vote in more socialism to compensate for the lack of economic opportunity. In short they will use their large numbers to vote in the redistribution of wealth from baby boomers and Gen xers (through taxes) back to them. We have Obamacare because millenials could not get the good jobs that would provide health insurance. It was Millenials who put the socialists in the white house and congress to begin with. Sadly with each new socialist program the nations economic problems will get worse. This death spiral of the US economy will continue until our nation is a shadow of its former self. We are in this nations end game.
As a group, maybe the millennials are more concerned about the overall society (feeding people, the environment, access to health care) than previous generations that were focused on acquiring personal wealth at the exclusion of others. Maybe that is not such a bad thing.
I'd go through all the reasons the US is not in a long term decline, but your post suggests you have your mind made up already. No point in my getting carpal tunnel attempting a rational discourse. We are going through a period of adjustment due to globalization and what that means in terms of our long term economic dominance. The great poet Dylan once said, "The times they are a changin' ".
We can lay down and cry ourselves to sleep, or do as previous generations did and roll up our sleeves and get to work kicking butt! Some folks see the "end game" as theirs to lose. Some see it as theirs to win!
As a group, maybe the millennials are more concerned about the overall society (feeding people, the environment, access to health care) than previous generations that were focused on acquiring personal wealth at the exclusion of others. Maybe that is not such a bad thing.
I'd go through all the reasons the US is not in a long term decline, but your post suggests you have your mind made up already. No point in my getting carpal tunnel attempting a rational discourse. We are going through a period of adjustment due to globalization and what that means in terms of our long term economic dominance. The great poet Dylan once said, "The times they are a changin' ".
We can lay down and cry ourselves to sleep, or do as previous generations did and roll up our sleeves and get to work kicking butt! Some folks see the "end game" as theirs to lose. Some see it as theirs to win!
That we are not going to hit some bottom and become second rate. We will continue to dominate, but likely not by the same margin as before. So, some adjustment period and we leverage our strengths to stay on top. Who else is going to be on top? China? Russia? The Eurozone. Whatever our challenges, they are all much worse off.
That we are not going to hit some bottom and become second rate. We will continue to dominate, but likely not by the same margin as before. So, some adjustment period and we leverage our strengths to stay on top. Who else is going to be on top? China? Russia? The Eurozone. Whatever our challenges, they are all much worse off.
Germany dominated Europe
"the sun never sets on the British Empire"
France was a Contintial power till Waterloo
Remember the Spanish Armada?
Going further back.... Rome?
Greece?
To think that any country's period as THE superpower will last without endi is the height of foolishness.
Setting that aside, you just described a decline.
(although baselessly claiming we would retain "We are number one!" (rah, rah, rah)
-which is not what I was asking about.
Germany dominated Europe
"the sun never sets on the British Empire"
France was a Contintial power till Waterloo
Remember the Spanish Armada?
Going further back.... Rome?
Greece?
To think that any country's period as THE superpower will last without endi is the height of foolishness.
Setting that aside, you just described a decline.
(although baselessly claiming we would retain "We are number one!" (rah, rah, rah)
-which is not what I was asking about.
I was looking for something more.... Factual.
No, you are looking for something "factual" that represents your pessimistic view. I could point to the dollars strength, the stock markets 6 year run, unemployment at 5.5%, corporate and personal debt reduction and on and on. Would any of that change your mind? I am a cautious optimist, hardly a cheerleader. I describe a period of minimal decline as we readjust, not a final steep decline.
What would you call someone who says, "I do agree with you about our economy, the US is in steep decline and the millennial can expect nothing but dwindling resources as they grow older"?
No country's period as "super power" will go on forever. The sun will eventually burn out too. A few years back we were entering "peak oil", how is that looking now? Neither you, nor I know where the US is in that cycle. I choose to be optimistic, you choose otherwise.
I ask again, who do you predict will take the mantle, support that with "facts".
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No, you are looking for something "factual" that represents your pessimistic view. I could point to the dollars strength, the stock markets 6 year run, unemployment at 5.5%, corporate and personal debt reduction and on and on. Would any of that change your mind? I am a cautious optimist, hardly a cheerleader. I describe a period of minimal decline as we readjust, not a final steep decline.
What would you call someone who says, "I do agree with you about our economy, the US is in steep decline and the millennial can expect nothing but dwindling resources as they grow older"?
No country's period as "super power" will go on forever. The sun will eventually burn out too. A few years back we were entering "peak oil", how is that looking now? Neither you, nor I know where the US is in that cycle. I choose to be optimistic, you choose otherwise.
I ask again, who do you predict will take the mantle, support that with "facts".
I am not pessimistic, I am a realist. I believe that although we may not be enjoying the boom which resulted from being one of the few industrialized nations NOT destoryed by 2 world wars.... One can still live an extremely high quality of life if one takes proper action.
How is this not optimistic? Please don't try to tell me my views when you demonstraight so little grasp of them, and cannot even express your own!
I have no idea who will assume power. I would guess china, but they could easily destroy themselves first.
That is not something that our status hinges upon and is immaterial to the question I asked you.
As for the bull**** that is "peak oil" I'm sorry, you are a fool if you ever believed it.
Likewise, it is foolish to believe a "unemployment rate" which discounts you as unemployed if you give up and have no hope of finding a job and/or run out of unemployment bennifits without finding work!
All of this having NOTHING to do with the statement that I asked you to justify:
That a "adjustment period" and not dominating as before was NOT a "long terme decline"
You still have not.
Would you care to, or are you going to continue to attempt to distract us from the issue by calli me a pessimist?
I disagree with OP point about not having kids....having kids will force you to be dedicated to your career. Everyone needs to made their own choices. I do agree with the point about delayed gratification that he raised though.
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