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Old 04-03-2015, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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They have paid the Republicans party and aligned with the Religious fundamentalists (who vote for them blindly and massively) to takeover the Government. They own the Congress of the USA, the Supreme court of the USA and the majority of the USA Media.
They've taken over both parties. Doesn't matter who is elected anymore.
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Old 04-03-2015, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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There is no oppression. Only envy. We are "oppressed" in today's world when we have to earn something instead of stealing it through political structures.
It's the rich who have stolen our political structure. Open your eyes. Democracy is dead.
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Old 04-03-2015, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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What laws weaken workers?
Anti union and collective bargaining.

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What special low taxes are designed for the rich? You may think they should pay at an even higher rate, but rates are progressive.
They were much more progressive in the 50s -70s. Which oddly was our most prosperous period in history.

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I do agree the government should provide more help.
I do only if it is simple and universal help. Like a UBI, and vouchers for education and medicine.

You can solve the education issue by opening public education to private schools. Get some competition and let the market decide the fair price.
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Old 04-03-2015, 11:21 AM
 
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And what do you think giving everyone $10k/yr and not removing a similar amount will do to demand? It will go through the roof. A smaller amount of this would have been a good idea a few years back, but there is no way this is a sensible general (and long term) policy.
You increase interest rates. This makes that money more expensive. Problem solved.

Like I said, monetary inflation is not the core cause of inflation. External, inelastic goods and services are - energy, land, etc. They "pull" inflation up or down, and the Fed reacts to those trends to achieve its target inflation rate.
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Old 04-03-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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You can solve the education issue by opening public education to private schools. Get some competition and let the market decide the fair price.
No. We do NOT open public education to private schools. When has privatizing a common good / public assets ever led to better quality?

Private interests investing in the community are like vampires investing in necks.
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Old 04-03-2015, 12:57 PM
 
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Anti union and collective bargaining.



They were much more progressive in the 50s -70s. Which oddly was our most prosperous period in history.



I do only if it is simple and universal help. Like a UBI, and vouchers for education and medicine.

You can solve the education issue by opening public education to private schools. Get some competition and let the market decide the fair price.
There some extremely powerful laws that support the ability to unionize and after unionization laws allow considerable power for the unions to operate during working hours within the privately owned workplaces. The fact is unions died because of the abuse of power and the crooks that often controlled the unions. Public opinion killed the unions.

Taxes were indeed a bit more progressive during the 50s and 70s. Back then a $50k or $100k adjusted gross income was considered wealthy and had some higher taxes. Once a significant portion of the middle class reached those income levels and well beyond, there was a lot of pressure to reduce taxes in those brackets. That opinion has more support than ever. Note when Obama talks about raising taxes on those who should pay more he is talking about those making $250k or more.
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Old 04-03-2015, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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Reducing income inequality is not complicated.

1) Raise the incomes of the "bottom"
2) Raise taxes on the "top"

Reducing income inequality is not the proper objective.

The proper objective is to increase the incentives for people to perform in an extraordinary way. We need to encourage more inequality in the form of compensation to the tiny few who make great contributions.
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Old 04-03-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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Reducing income inequality is not the proper objective.

The proper objective is to increase the incentives for people to perform in an extraordinary way. We need to encourage more inequality in the form of compensation to the tiny few who make great contributions.
Incentive is useless without opportunity. What's worse, even with opportunity, your suggestion does not work. Trickle down economics aka supply side economics has proven a failure.
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Old 04-03-2015, 03:46 PM
 
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It's the rich who have stolen our political structure. Open your eyes. Democracy is dead.
Democracy be damned. Individual liberty trumps majority oppression. We need a government that protects the individual and allows and encourages the individual to sink or swim on his or her own merits. We need to lower taxes, get rid of welfare, get rid of public ownership of private assets, and encourage private schools and private schooling. Parents should get a 100% dollar-for-dollar tax credit if they send their kids to private schools. Where they will get a real education and not a social engineering collectivist-leftist-altruist-statist indoctrination.

We need better citizens. And that starts with individual achievement and protection of private property rights and the rediscovery of the only just economic system ever devised: Laissez-faire Capitalism. Which we botched the first time due to altruistic pollution and mixed premises that have led to the statist crony economy we see around us.

You should keep ALMOST ALL of what you earn. If you fail to earn, you should get NOTHING other than private charity. Welfare and redistribution need to be abolished. We cater too much to people's weakness and bad character, rewarding incompetence, laziness, and irresponsibility. We encourage failure, and apologizing for bad character, and poor work habits.

Income should be absolutely and magnificently UNEQUAL. Those that work the hardest and best should get most of the money. That would be just and rational and correct. And would lead to the best society in the world. A society of quality, merit, and pride, instead of a society of sniveling and whining about what others have and how it can be taken away from them.

INEQUALITY IS THE GOOD. EQUALITY IS EVIL.
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Old 04-03-2015, 04:19 PM
 
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Democracy be damned. Individual liberty trumps majority oppression. We need a government that protects the individual and allows and encourages the individual to sink or swim on his or her own merits. We need to lower taxes, get rid of welfare, get rid of public ownership of private assets, and encourage private schools and private schooling. Parents should get a 100% dollar-for-dollar tax credit if they send their kids to private schools. Where they will get a real education and not a social engineering collectivist-leftist-altruist-statist indoctrination.

We need better citizens. And that starts with individual achievement and protection of private property rights and the rediscovery of the only just economic system ever devised: Laissez-faire Capitalism. Which we botched the first time due to altruistic pollution and mixed premises that have led to the statist crony economy we see around us.

You should keep ALMOST ALL of what you earn. If you fail to earn, you should get NOTHING other than private charity. Welfare and redistribution need to be abolished. We cater too much to people's weakness and bad character, rewarding incompetence, laziness, and irresponsibility. We encourage failure, and apologizing for bad character, and poor work habits.

Income should be absolutely and magnificently UNEQUAL. Those that work the hardest and best should get most of the money. That would be just and rational and correct. And would lead to the best society in the world. A society of quality, merit, and pride, instead of a society of sniveling and whining about what others have and how it can be taken away from them.

INEQUALITY IS THE GOOD. EQUALITY IS EVIL.
That's rich a dollar for dollar tax credit for private schools.

So those who make the most, get to send their kids to the best schools, for free.

Those who make little and have little to no tax burden will still have to send their kids to public school because few credits are refundable.

Now I do agree that everyone should be able to get a voucher equal to public tuition cost and be able to use it wherever, but a credit? That's blantant pandering to the rich.
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