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Middle age unemployed baby boomer, experiencing age discrimination, can't find a job? File for SS disability. Seems easy to get as there is now a record breaking over 8 million collecting.
BS. Disability is NOT given to people just because they don't speak English. That is NOWHERE on the list of accepted MEDICAL conditions.
Exactly. You need to read the article more closely but first understand the general process of being approved for SSDI.
Factors that make people less able to adapt to other jobs are included. Some of these factors are: being over 50, having little education, and apparently, for better of for worse, now not speaking English has been added to this list.
Remember that these are all CITIZENS who have paid into the system. They are NOT ILLEGALS.
Again, most people posting here really have a problem with "SSI" (ie, that which is given to poor people who don't have enough work credits) yet are bashing "SSDI" which is the program we all pay into to be there in case of a disability.
SSDI is an insurance policy and a very bad one at that in comparison to private policies.
SSI gives almost ANYONE who is a citizen, poor and not working up to $700 a month. This come out to about $3.50 cents "per hour" assuming one would be working 40 hours a week.
You guys are really so jealous about people being subsidized $3.50 an hour so they don't die and/or steal from you and vandalize your neighborhoods?
SSDI pays disabled people on average 1k per month. (There are many places online to verify this.) This come out to about $5 an hour.
Again, you are seriously begrudging people for collecting $5 an hour after a lifetime of working on the books? That is about HALF of most states' minimum wage.
Do you think it is "coincidence" that unemployment is higher where there are the most SSDI recipients? It's not. Either 1. The jobs and not there and/or 2. Companies REFUSE TO ACCOMMODATE disabled workers.
Please educate yourself before you bash something that you do not understand. It ruins your credibility on other issues if you don't.
Ha, ha, ha. A poster in P&OC posted an article about this ..ssdi and language.
Yup..the Feds made it a consideration and people in Puerto Rico are getting approved for SSDI because they don't speak English.
Feds consider Puerto Ricans disabled because they speak Spanish - Washington Times
According to a new audit by the Office of Inspector General (OIG), the agency is misapplying rules that are intended to provide financial assistance to individuals who are illiterate or cannot speak English in the United States. Under the rules, Puerto Ricans are allowed to receive disability benefits for their inability to speak English as well. “We found the Agency did not make exceptions regarding the English-language grid rules for claimants who reside in Puerto Rico, even though Spanish is the predominant language spoken in the local economy,” the OIG said.
Again, you are seriously begrudging people for collecting $5 an hour after a lifetime of working on the books? That is about HALF of most states' minimum wage.
Do you think it is "coincidence" that unemployment is higher where there are the most SSDI recipients? It's not. Either 1. The jobs and not there and/or 2. Companies REFUSE TO ACCOMMODATE disabled workers.
Please educate yourself before you bash something that you do not understand. It ruins your credibility on other issues if you don't.
Except the two categories of claims that are by far the easiest to fake - back pain and mental health - have soared from 18% of claims to 53% of claims from 1961 to 2011. (Data source:http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/). This is indicative of fraud on a massive scale. Even as an economic conservative I 100% support disability payments for people with a bona-fide disability -- they literally can't care for themselves and there but for the grace of g-d go I. Paying taxes to provide an early retirement for people faking it on the other hand is as infuriating as it is expensive.
Except the two categories of claims that are by far the easiest to fake - back pain and mental health - have soared from 18% of claims to 53% of claims from 1961 to 2011. (Data source:http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/). This is indicative of fraud on a massive scale. Even as an economic conservative I 100% support disability payments for people with a bona-fide disability -- they literally can't care for themselves and there but for the grace of g-d go I. Paying taxes to provide an early retirement for people faking it on the other hand is as infuriating as it is expensive.
Four now..add illiteracy and inability to speak English.
Four now..add illiteracy and inability to speak English.
I hadn't heard about those before -- so now apparently Democrats are trying to turn disability explicitly into a backdoor welfare program for their constituencies, not just intentionally turning their back on fraud. Awesome.
Hopefully the Republicans have the spine to use this as leverage to fix all that nonsense, and hopefully again the Democrats back down and let the program be returned to its original purpose rather than preferring cuts to people who really need and deserve it.
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As long as our government keeps sending billions overseas annually, they need to stop the scare tactics about S.S. running out of money.
It's a technical issue. Even though there is no de facto separation between SS or SSDI money and the general budget because the funds are "invested" in IOUs from the federal government to the federal government, there is still a de jure separation, which will result in automatic spending cuts unless there is a bill passed to stop them or target them intelligently and morally at fraud reduction rather than doing dumb and harmful to truly disabled people across the board cuts.
Except the two categories of claims that are by far the easiest to fake - back pain and mental health - have soared from 18% of claims to 53% of claims from 1961 to 2011. (Data source:http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/). This is indicative of fraud on a massive scale. Even as an economic conservative I 100% support disability payments for people with a bona-fide disability -- they literally can't care for themselves and there but for the grace of g-d go I. Paying taxes to provide an early retirement for people faking it on the other hand is as infuriating as it is expensive.
Again, because people w legit psych problems aren't having their disabilities accommodated.
Force employers to do so, the rate will drop. I've already gave one straight fwd example of a biz not complying w ADA in this thread and i've given others in other threads.
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