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There is a big difference between "missing" something, and simply "ignoring" something owing to its being comprised of age-old alarmist folly and irrelevance. There is nothing new going on here. The same message has been preached by generations of alarmists before you.
You keep reverting back to that knee-jerk sweeping platitude. I've given you many examples of precisely *why* it is different now.
The message was preached by Luddites at the beginning of the industrial revolution, and by Marx. They were correct, but the issue didn't materialize because the capitalists knew 200 years ago that *consumer* capitalism was the only way for capitalism to survive. Every developed country runs on this model and that isn't by accident. The Soviets are the reason why there was a big shift in income and wealth to the middle class in the 20th century. Communism was considered a real threat. Consumer capitalism produces the highest aggregate wealth when there is a strong middle class, and we needed that wealth to fuel our military and ensure the patriotism of the masses. The immanent collapse of the Soviet Union meant the US oligarchs were free to pursue other agendas.
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And who is it in your world that these same Big Buisnesses would be producing for and profiting from via their new uber-machines when there are no more consumers left in your world?
I explained all that. The robots will build and produce whatever their owners want. It will be similar to how it was a few thousand years ago in royalty/slave cultures, only much more advanced and efficient. When the robotic slaves are sufficiently advanced, the things you can produce will be limited primarily by resources... energy and materials. And of course technology. Humans who are tech geniuses will still be highly valuable until robots surpass them. The oligarchs will surely trade with each other, but the inefficient system of skimming profits from the economic activity of the masses will end.
There is a big difference between "missing" something, and simply "ignoring" something owing to its being comprised of age-old alarmist folly and irrelevance. There is nothing new going on here. The same message has been preached by generations of alarmists before you.
There is quite a difference. In this case its you ignoring WHY its different....and then acting like its the exact same.
Its like being in a lightning storm, and saying "theres very little risk", and then grabbing a giant metal rod, holding it above your head and saying the same thing.
We're not replacing just repetitive tasks, or brute force tasks. We're looking at cognitive abilities being added to the machines, and a much more generic ability to apply the rest.
There is quite a difference. In this case its you ignoring WHY its different....and then acting like its the exact same. Its like being in a lightning storm, and saying "theres very little risk", and then grabbing a giant metal rod, holding it above your head and saying the same thing.
No, it isn't like that at all. It's like telling Chicken Little that the sky is in fact NOT falling for some arbitrarily large Nth time. There is nothing new here. RPT. There is nothing new here. Technology-related gloom-and-doom crapola is as old as the hills.
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We're not replacing just repetitive tasks, or brute force tasks. We're looking at cognitive abilities being added to the machines, and a much more generic ability to apply the rest.
Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
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Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do.
You keep repeating that there is nothing new, when there very clearly is. Everyone who has investigated the matter agrees on that. It amazes me how close minded you are on this subject. Is it that frightening?
It isn't frightening at all. It's silly. And not even remotely "everybody" exposed to them agrees with such addled futurist hallucinations.
What funny is that while this article goes on about how its different, it then goes on to say "except it wont replace X because humans do that better". Uhmmm...no it will. not at first, but eventually, the difference between expert systems and AI.
A fascinating excerpt being discussed from a citigroup report: https://www.aei.org/publication/citi...ime-different/
is probably a good example of why the economics of it is different, but it also discusses other reasons why this is different
I could go on and on, but you dismiss everyones facts and discussions as "opinions" and "blogs". Hey guess what? We see a train coming, you should move off the tracks. Your responses so far is "thats your opinion". Stop and take a look.
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