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There are many job shops in the U.S. that manufacture various critical components of all kinds. The trends in manufacturing today favor small, lean shops vs old school plants where masses of workers labor away 12 hours a day.
Economies of scale, and the offshoring of entire supply chains makes it difficult to compete in electronics manufacturing in the U.S. though.
I work with automation every day. It gets boring. I just accepted a higher paying job working on manual equipment, producing prototypes, fixtures and tooling. Many of those items will end up supporting the effort to advance automation.
I say, let China have the low hanging fruit. I don't want to work at FoxCon like companies. Not many Americans do either. Let the slave wage nations have the low hanging fruit.
There are many job shops in the U.S. that manufacture various critical components of all kinds. The trends in manufacturing today favor small, lean shops vs old school plants where masses of workers labor away 12 hours a day.
Economies of scale, and the offshoring of entire supply chains makes it difficult to compete in electronics manufacturing in the U.S. though.
I work with automation every day. It gets boring. I just accepted a higher paying job working on manual equipment, producing prototypes, fixtures and tooling. Many of those items will end up supporting the effort to advance automation.
I say, let China have the low hanging fruit. I don't want to work at FoxCon like companies. Not many Americans do either. Let the slave wage nations have the low hanging fruit.
There are many job shops in the U.S. that manufacture various critical components of all kinds. The trends in manufacturing today favor small, lean shops vs old school plants where masses of workers labor away 12 hours a day.
Economies of scale, and the offshoring of entire supply chains makes it difficult to compete in electronics manufacturing in the U.S. though.
I work with automation every day. It gets boring. I just accepted a higher paying job working on manual equipment, producing prototypes, fixtures and tooling. Many of those items will end up supporting the effort to advance automation.
I say, let China have the low hanging fruit. I don't want to work at FoxCon like companies. Not many Americans do either. Let the slave wage nations have the low hanging fruit.
That works for you personally. But that's precisely the problem in America. Most of our population have only the ability to reach low hanging fruit. But they don't want to do it at the salary offered.
That works for you personally. But that's precisely the problem in America. Most of our population have only the ability to reach low hanging fruit. But they don't want to do it at the salary offered.
USD is inflated in value. Chinese Yuan is also too cheap. Both make it difficult to manufacture in the US. Regardless, the United States must make an effort to preserve some domestic manufacturing. It's never a good thing to be dependent on other nations for the basics. Automation is great and all, but we are running out of skilled hands to set up and program machinery.
We lack the large scale facilities that handle all in one manufacturing, like China has. They have entire regions that specialize in specific types of manufacturing. There is an art and science behind the way everything is made, and the Chinese have come a long way in building the skilled workforce and infrastructure needed to advance their ability to compete. We basically said manufacturing is not worth preserving, and the knowledge is not valuable anymore. China is LOLing...
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Originally Posted by J.Thomas
I wonder are there any companies in US that manufacture consumer electronics??
They obviously wouldn't be competitive at average priced products.
But they may have a chance at high-end products.
For example Apple could make Macbooks and Imacs since they are very profitable.
In terms of logistics they would make sense too.
Utilizing automation and robots would be a benefit as well
Apple's Mac Pro is made in Austin.
Motorola did have some phone manufacturing in the US. I'm not sure if they still do.
There's tons of component manufacturing in the US. Final assembly is often done overseas though, so the parts end up saying some other country on the package, but the critical bits inside were designed and built in the US (or some other highly developed nation).
I wonder are there any companies in US that manufacture consumer electronics??
They obviously wouldn't be competitive at average priced products.
But they may have a chance at high-end products.
For example Apple could make Macbooks and Imacs since they are very profitable.
In terms of logistics they would make sense too.
Utilizing automation and robots would be a benefit as well
The world is a market now days where there are innovators and suppliers. Why would Apple change when it like 30% of smart phone in sales yet makes 92% of the profits. They are a high end luxury brand in the world. Just as US auto makes have had to change; has so others has little is solely made in one country any more. Future sales are not the US market for much of anything. Even the China auto market has exceeded US in sales and its just getting started.
I used to install test equipment, and train people in the software I worked on in companies in the US that did this. Theres quite a few small companies that do it. But nothing on the scale of Foxconn. Foxconn is quite literally a small city.
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Originally Posted by JasonF
Apple's Mac Pro is made in Austin.
Motorola did have some phone manufacturing in the US. I'm not sure if they still do.
There's tons of component manufacturing in the US. Final assembly is often done overseas though, so the parts end up saying some other country on the package, but the critical bits inside were designed and built in the US (or some other highly developed nation).
The opposite is true, too. I remember looking at TVs and saw one LED model that said on the box "Made in Detroit, USA" but the fine print said "from components manufactured in China". I also have a relative in CA that is a supervisor at an electronics assembly plant, and their parts come from China, they just assemble.
I remember reading a bunch of articles about Foxconn awhile back. The employees were being treated as slaves--they lived on site in dormitories, their pay (what there was of it) was being sent home to their families and they literally had no way to leave. There were huge suicide rates in the dormitories.
I can't imagine that we'd want something like that in the U.S.
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