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Old 07-20-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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Hmmm. I'm curious now as to how much time you have spent in jail cells -- with or without Muslims.
None. But you, with your "multicultural" and romantic delusions, could use some time there.
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Old 07-22-2015, 07:30 AM
 
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Yeah, pretty much as I expected. Lots of bodacious blabber with nothing at all behind it. I see rather a lot of that around these parts.

I'll assume as well that you have nothing meaningful to report with regard to queuing up with illegal aliens who have overwhelmed the emergency rooms, that you completely fail to understand what PPACA is actually doing to health care, and that you don't understand that English speakers are neither tainted or hindered in an exposure to those who still struggle with the language.
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Old 07-22-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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Yeah, pretty much as I expected. Lots of bodacious blabber with nothing at all behind it. I see rather a lot of that around these parts.

I'll assume as well that you have nothing meaningful to report with regard to queuing up with illegal aliens who have overwhelmed the emergency rooms, that you completely fail to understand what PPACA is actually doing to health care, and that you don't understand that English speakers are neither tainted or hindered in an exposure to those who still struggle with the language.
Speak for yourself, tart.

Yes they are, it has made matters infinitely worse, and yes they are, respectively.

You deserve to be forced into the queue you plan to impose on the rest of us as well.

You also deserve a lot of that cross border crime, from having your car stolen and taken to a chop shop, to being beaten--and worse--by someone who crosses the "open border" to escape prosecution. Such violation of your body might teach you the full "machismo" concept as well.
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Old 07-22-2015, 08:31 PM
 
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I was watching a show on robot development in Japan a country with large aging population. Every interesting and even a Hotel with mostly robots opening. For most things humans can be replaced. Its just a step and funding in changing robots in industry being used for years to robot to replace human. in many other personal jobs. Since children where once a advantage by more working hands in past and now not true :I expect having a robot to be come the norm in time. That will generally led to selection in humans done with so many animals now in breeding. Humans just can't stop themselves even if some want.
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Old 07-23-2015, 05:24 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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Only the higher income producers are having less children. It will not wind up good...
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Old 07-23-2015, 07:29 PM
 
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The large social retirement programs require an increasing population base to fund current and future retirees. So you either need to have a high birthdate or lots of immigration to pay the promised benefits. Otherwise you have to raise the retirement age and/or cut benefits.
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Old 07-24-2015, 06:03 AM
 
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The people with declining fertility rates are minorities. Rates for white folks haven't been changing much.

Raising the SS wage cap to about $185K while leaving the benefits cap at its current $118,500 with both numbers adjusted annually for inflation would mean that the SS Trust Fund would never be exhausted and 100% of scheduled benefits could be paid forever, even under the absurdly pessimistic assumptions that the SS Trustees use in making their projections.
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Old 07-24-2015, 07:23 PM
 
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The people with declining fertility rates are minorities. Rates for white folks haven't been changing much.

Raising the SS wage cap to about $185K while leaving the benefits cap at its current $118,500 with both numbers adjusted annually for inflation would mean that the SS Trust Fund would never be exhausted and 100% of scheduled benefits could be paid forever, even under the absurdly pessimistic assumptions that the SS Trustees use in making their projections.

Excuse you?

White non-Hispanic birth rates have been declining in the USA for decades.

America's Evolving Look: Census Shows White Deaths Outpace White Births - US News

Explaining Why Minority Births Now Outnumber White Births | Pew Research Center

Census: Fewer white babies being born – In America - CNN.com Blogs

And so it goes.

Yes, birth rates for all demographics fell during the recent recession/economic crisis but that still leaves white females with a lower overall fertility rate than minorities.

Truth to tell white females began having less children around the turn of last century. It began with the educated upper classes and progressed through the years to reach most all levels of that demographic.

White non-Hispanic females not only were likely to be better educated which along with their similar spouses knew the value of family planning. Women like Margaret Sanger deplored if not outright often detested the "dirty" lower class women in slums that were seen pretty much as breeding machines for more poverty and vice. It was the death of one of her patients that nurse Sanger took up the cause of family planning to the masses in spite of things like the Comstock law.

Ms. Sanger like other educated women of her class knew about birth control and how/where to get it. Women, their husbands, friends, etc... would bring back condoms, diaphragms, and other period birth control in their luggage when returning from Europe. This got around that pesky Comstock law.

Immigrant/poor women especially from the Catholic and certain Jewish demographics had no such luck. They were told by their society, family and religion their duty was to "submit" to their husbands and produce children, end of story. Thus you often had in the filthy, squalid and dirty tenements of New York City women worn out from producing and caring for baby after baby. There was little they could do as their husbands viewed frequent access to their bodies as his right.

Margaret Sanger became involved in birth control after the death of a poor wife/mother already worn out from having and caring for several children took the route used by many such women, a back alley (and illegal) abortion. She survived the first (which is why Ms. Sanger was nursing her), and pleaded for the doctor to tell her how to prevent more pregnancies; all the man would do for her is say "Tell Jake to sleep on the roof". Well that wasn't going to happen and in short order the woman found herself pregnant again. The subsequent abortion lead to her death. Tell Jake To Sleep On The Roof, Anne Gaylor, Freethought Today, August 1996

As one has stated previously in this thread the cake is already baked for white non-Hispanics in this country. They have fewer females young that will enter their fertile period and those already fertile. If it wasn't for IVF ( a frequent cause of multiple births) the number of white females (and gay males for that matter) with twins, triplets, etc... would likely be less.

Ironically ease of access to birth control for white females is said to be driving up the use of IVF and surrogate use.

Young females of all races but usually whites go on birth control pills often by their late teens (if not before) or college years and remain on them sometimes for ten or twenty years until they are "ready" to begin having a family. They are told the things are safe and the effects will reverse themselves easily once stopped. This does not always happen and is being seen more and more.

Women are being told by their doctors they are still "young" enough to have children yet after discontinuing BC after several years of trying are still unable to conceive. As that clock on the wall keeps ticking a good number resort to IVF or surrogacy in order to become mothers. The latter often happens after several rounds of IVF fail to produce the desired result.
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Old 07-26-2015, 07:08 PM
 
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Excuse you?
No need. White fertility has been about steady recently while fertility among blacks and hispanics has been dropping. This is what has produced overall declines. Sorry you missed the news. You may also not have heard that Anne Gaylor passed away last month.
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Old 07-26-2015, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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Effects?
More Africans spread across the planet.
Only significant place left with high birth rates.
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