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I agree their tax collection was abysmal. But if you are going to run a socialist country, you have to squeeze the businesses and people who actually produce and work for a living as much as you can to even have a chance of delaying the Titanic from sinking. They didn't even have enough sense to do that. LOL.
Re: the "Conservatives wanting the US to function" like that....topic for another conversation. I don't think people mind paying their "fair share"...they just don't like to work their arses off and then have the pay for the freeloaders also.
Let's remember..it's the private sector's taxes that even "allow" for the existence of a public sector.
He got it wrong. When you run such a generous socialist system, are you really surprised that the tax collection doesn't work. Why would people pay far more than their fair share? In the end, it goes back to their economic policies.
It is not what conservatives want the U.S. To function. Conservatives don't want to run such a generous socialist system. It's what liberals essentially would make it function, though they deny it.
Us is not likely to be where Greece is. In fact even Europe is in start of reform to labor markets and in getting to EU requirement that have been in place. Greece is a example of government too big and consuming GDP while destroying the private sector who produce it. Their GDP dropped 25% just in the last few eyars.
Europe can certainly delay their disaster. But it won't change anything. Europe is finished.
The future is going to be China, U.S., India, Russia, and Brazil.
He got it wrong. When you run such a generous socialist system, are you really surprised that the tax collection doesn't work. Why would people pay far more than their fair share? In the end, it goes back to their economic policies.
It is not what conservatives want the U.S. To function. Conservatives don't want to run such a generous socialist system. It's what liberals essentially would make it function, though they deny it.
Brazil is gradually emerging. It is a huge market with an emerging middle class. There is also more south-south trading between China and Brazil. More bypassing the old empires of the west.
Not to mention that China for instance is cultivating relationships with several central and South American countries. The brazillians and many people over there are naturally inclined to oppose the U.S. And friend a far away power who has an interest in our back yard. The South Americans are correct in disliking the U.S. Considering our support for dictatorships, harboring nazis and using them in South America, and the notorious Monroe doctrine.
Unfortunately We will be more like Brazil in the future.
Apparently that was the most uneducated post in this Thread. When people can't come up with a compelling argument, that's what some of them resort to. The sort of sour grape personal attack that reveals every bit of their insecurity, bitterness and failure to manage their anger.
The issue is balance. We need to have public retirement systems, healthcare, and education but we simply can't afford to be so generous. Our public pension system for state employees will fail across the board as we can't simply afford to be as generous and keep building for the future.
Lastly, it matters what we are spending our money on. Wielding a military that can mobilize several hundreds of thousands of soldiers and support to send overseas is not really necessary when we are the only strong military in the Western hemisphere, surrounded by two oceans/vast geographical distances from the our enemies. Spending trillions in the next few decades on highways, electric grids, mass transit, waste water plants, freight, etc. is a smart way to spend lots of public money. We're kinda due for an infrastructure overhaul.
The issue is balance. We need to have public retirement systems, healthcare, and education but we simply can't afford to be so generous. Our public pension system for state employees will fail across the board as we can't simply afford to be as generous and keep building for the future.
Lastly, it matters what we are spending our money on. Wielding a military that can mobilize several hundreds of thousands of soldiers and support to send overseas is not really necessary when we are the only strong military in the Western hemisphere, surrounded by two oceans/vast geographical distances from the our enemies. Spending trillions in the next few decades on highways, electric grids, mass transit, waste water plants, freight, etc. is a smart way to spend lots of public money. We're kinda due for an infrastructure overhaul.
But see the argument many leftists have is not about infrastructure. It is about keeping up with old living standards even as it has become apparent that the nation can no longer support generous pensions and social programs, even as young people face unemployment. The logic is who cares just get young people to fund what pensioners are used to, you know, the great benefits of a bygone era.
Exactly who is selfish? Who is saying I have gotten mine?
I support the idea that we do not need to be the world police.
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