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Here's the contract in my town. This is average for the state. The metro-Boston 'burbs pay quite a bit more. You'll find similar numbers or higher for anywhere in NY, NJ, PA, CT, and RI.
Here's the 2nd page on the compensation list in my town. Typically, these are masters + 20 teachers. The first page is mostly administrators so I didn't bother the copy+paste. If you work a couple of months in the summer, you can easily clear 6 figures. Assuming your spouse is also a teacher, you're approaching 5%-er household income. Unlike most people in that income bracket, you're also getting a generous defined benefit pension. This is for 180 work days with July and August off and with 1 week+ school vacations at Christmas and Presidents Week.
I totally agree, as a former school board member I can testify to the fact. Problem is many in the ranks are so programmed to feel, think poor me, life and work is SO......hard.
They forget the stipends, step ups, automatic COLA, and bennies that they get. Add in to the equation those in their communities who make less ( who don't get the bennies and have no clue how much teachers are paid) feel so bad for the group that has summers off, get unpaid help in the way of volunteers, you get the point.
Many have no idea how good they have it. When pointed out, well must just be your poor community, you all don't make as much, you don't deserve as much, it isn't enough anyway, blah blah blah to nauseum. End of rant as this will only get the ones coming in to insult about the whole life is so hard, and the job would be so easy if not for the kids, parents, and poor pay. Poor me....
Yes there are great teachers, yes they deserve good pay. Yes I appreciate them and all they do. Yes I understand they need the summer, every vacation, a period off to plan the same lessons again, just making sure I cover all bases here.
It's now to the point where adults are lining up for the few min wage service jobs that open up at McD's and Walmart.
The unemployment situation in the United States isn't anywhere as bleak as you're implying here.
Part time workers who are doing it because they couldn't find full time work are the minority, and unemployment as a whole will likely be well under 5% in early 2016.
The unemployment situation in the United States isn't anywhere as bleak as you're implying here.
Part time workers who are doing it because they couldn't find full time work are the minority, and unemployment as a whole will likely be well under 5% in early 2016.
Also, remember Walmart doesn't pay the fed. min. Wage anymore. Their min. Is $9/hr and will be $10/hr starting in Feb.
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Here's the contract in my town. This is average for the state. The metro-Boston 'burbs pay quite a bit more. You'll find similar numbers or higher for anywhere in NY, NJ, PA, CT, and RI.
Here's the 2nd page on the compensation list in my town. Typically, these are masters + 20 teachers. The first page is mostly administrators so I didn't bother the copy+paste. If you work a couple of months in the summer, you can easily clear 6 figures. Assuming your spouse is also a teacher, you're approaching 5%-er household income. Unlike most people in that income bracket, you're also getting a generous defined benefit pension. This is for 180 work days with July and August off and with 1 week+ school vacations at Christmas and Presidents Week.
I suspect that your example is not representative of the nation as a whole for teacher salaries. Here in the high cost Seattle area, I could show the same sort of listing (but prefer not to give out people's names) and the teacher salaries are much less, the highest pay is $63,560.
I suspect that your example is not representative of the nation as a whole for teacher salaries. Here in the high cost Seattle area, I could show the same sort of listing (but prefer not to give out people's names) and the teacher salaries are much less, the highest pay is $63,560.
For the reading-impared, I specifically called out Northeast. PA, NJ, NY, CT, RI, MA. I think you'll find that the numbers are also similar in California. Seattle doesn't have the 50+ year history of totally entrenched public sector unions and it was a low cost obscure place 50 years ago. If you look most places in the south where they don't have strong public sector unions, teachers get paid dirt.
I suspect that your example is not representative of the nation as a whole for teacher salaries. Here in the high cost Seattle area, I could show the same sort of listing (but prefer not to give out people's names) and the teacher salaries are much less, the highest pay is $63,560.
Wow, that is surprising it's so low in Seattle. In my old middle class neighborhood in Ohio the highest pay was $84,000 with retirement around $55,000.
I totally agree, as a former school board member I can testify to the fact. Problem is many in the ranks are so programmed to feel, think poor me, life and work is SO......hard.
I have public school teacher friends who whine about their work load. I ask some pointed questions about their time management. They have to drag work home because they're coffee klatching with their co-workers instead of correcting papers and exams.
You need to have the personality for it and some aptitude but there aren't many mensa candidates among the Education major grads in any college or university I know of. Teacher and cop are clearly two jobs that pay totally out of whack with the talent level of the employee.
It's been done for some time. It was a slow erosion that started in the 60's with mfg getting offshored.
It's now to the point where adults are lining up for the few min wage service jobs that open up at McD's and Walmart.
Ross Perot was a visionary that warned America. Only America chose not to listen.
McD's and other here are actively hiring with minimum wage with paid sick leave starting at $12.55 an hour and are having trouble filling the positions.
unemployment is getting to the level where many of those left unemployed either do not really want to work or are unemployable because they can't pass a drug test , background check or credit check to even get to first base .
we have been hiring for years and run in to this daily .
The biggest problem my Contractor friends have is finding employees with clean driving records...
It is a non-starter.
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Add in to the equation those in their communities who make less ( who don't get the bennies and have no clue how much teachers are paid) feel so bad for the group that has summers off, get unpaid help in the way of volunteers, you get the point.
End of rant as this will only get the ones coming in to insult about the whole life is so hard, and the job would be so easy if not for the kids, parents, and poor pay. Poor me.... 
