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Old 02-14-2016, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Except for the Bay Area, LA, NY, Seattle, Portland, and maybe a few cities in Texas the entire country, especially the heartland, is decaying.
How did you reach this conclusion?
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Old 02-14-2016, 07:15 PM
 
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How did you reach this conclusion?
Chicago is shrinking, most of the rust belt states have lost their manufacturing base, and places like Miami have high unemployment and only run off tourism.
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Old 02-14-2016, 07:15 PM
 
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Except for the Bay Area, LA, NY, Seattle, Portland, and maybe a few cities in Texas the entire country, especially the heartland, is decaying.
You don't get out much, do you?
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Old 02-14-2016, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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You don't get out much, do you?
Took the words right out of my mouth.
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Old 02-14-2016, 07:36 PM
 
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Took the words right out of my mouth.
I've been to the Central Valley. I've seen the condition of America's heartland.
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Old 02-14-2016, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I've been to the Central Valley. I've seen the condition of America's heartland.
Yeah, me too.

I guess we saw different things.
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Old 02-14-2016, 07:40 PM
 
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Yeah, me too.

I guess we saw different things.
I saw 10% unemployment, low wage service jobs, strip malls, and crime
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Old 02-14-2016, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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About the only residential construction that's going on in Tucson, AZ, is million-dollar+ homes for the very rich (who usually have other homes elsewhere) and new rental apartment complexes. They're very nice, all the amenities of luxury condo living (some of them even have a Starbucks on the premises, as well as pools, gym, theater, etc). But very expensive. One company alone has built five of them, each with 200-400 units. How will young people ever save up for the down-payment on a single family home when they're paying more than $1,000 a month on rent, PLUS they have to pay utilities?
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Old 02-14-2016, 07:50 PM
 
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About the only residential construction that's going on in Tucson, AZ, is million-dollar+ homes for the very rich (who usually have other homes elsewhere) and new rental apartment complexes. They're very nice, all the amenities of luxury condo living (some of them even have a Starbucks on the premises, as well as pools, gym, theater, etc). But very expensive. One company alone has built five of them, each with 200-400 units. How will young people ever save up for the down-payment on a single family home when they're paying more than $1,000 a month on rent, PLUS they have to pay utilities?
I bet I could get into an upper middle class neighborhood for 200g there.
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Old 02-14-2016, 07:54 PM
 
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I've been to the Central Valley. I've seen the condition of America's heartland.
How about the high growth areas of the country? Denver? Salt Lake? Charlotte? Raleigh-Durham? The non-trailer trash parts of Florida? New York City? Boston? DC?
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