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Old 03-14-2016, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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What would be the most efficient means of distributing resources and wealth in a world without work/jobs? Or at least a world where there is not enough work for all?

It's getting to the point where many jobs are as simple as pushing a button. As technology progresses, tasks will be made easier, jobs may be consolidated and lost, and a growing share of the population will not be able to function in our economic system.

Realistically, work will continue to be relevent for a long time. Even if the system is not efficient, "work" gives purpose to millions, and keeps them busy and occupied. That way, the crooks in DC can continue to rob them blind.
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Old 03-14-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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Ask those who used to live on kibbutz's in israel. Ultimitely human nature being what it is they failed like domino's
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Old 03-14-2016, 02:01 PM
 
Location: WA
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Without work there would be very few resources to distribute.
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Old 03-14-2016, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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What would be the most efficient means of distributing resources and wealth in a world without work/jobs?
The present system will continue to work just fine.

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Or at least a world where there is not enough work for all?
There are 23 Million acres of fallow farmland in Ohio and 135+ Million acres of fallow farm land in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Missouri, according to the US Department of Agriculture.

That doesn't include the Millions of acres of grazing/pasture lands.

Good luck in your new endeavor.
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Old 03-14-2016, 04:09 PM
 
Location: home
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Ask those who used to live on kibbutz's in israel. Ultimitely human nature being what it is they failed like domino's
I've been to quite a few kibbutz's and they mostly have turned capitalist. A few of them have well-regarded restaurants listed in Zagats, and almost all have brew-pubs that serve American/European expats. Whenever I went, the company picked up the tab, and situations like that have been the bread and butter for a lot of them.
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Old 03-14-2016, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Spain
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As technology progresses, tasks will be made easier, jobs may be consolidated and lost, and a growing share of the population will not be able to function in our economic system.
Couldn't one have said this back when we started automating agriculture?

Such a large percentage of the population involved in the very manual process of agriculture and along comes the cotton gin, reapers/threshers, the steam engine, combines, tractors, etc. where will all these people go that work the fields with all these inventions makes tasks easier and jobs get consolidated and lost?
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Old 03-14-2016, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Atlantis
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Gladiator battles in huge arenas, with different teams: geographical regions in opposition to each other. Point systems set up (higher points for kills) and distribution of resources based on amount of wins/victories, etc.
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Old 03-15-2016, 03:23 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Couldn't one have said this back when we started automating agriculture?

Such a large percentage of the population involved in the very manual process of agriculture and along comes the cotton gin, reapers/threshers, the steam engine, combines, tractors, etc. where will all these people go that work the fields with all these inventions makes tasks easier and jobs get consolidated and lost?
Humans have an intellectual limit. We are closer to that limit today than the past days you describe.

The same goes for material and energy resources. There's an earthly (solar system, beyond?) limit. Over time, things will become more scarce. Exceptions include interstellar breakthroughs.

The same goes for technology. We've been inventing and innovating since day one, granted. But we have limits on what we can discover. These limits are dictated by intelligence and resources. Human intelligence has been more or less the same since a long time ago. Only knowledge has increased significantly (although one could argue that an intelligence increase has happened, up for debate).

My whole point is, humans might reach a ceiling. Right then, they wonder: "why hasn't the past continued its trajectory?"





Back on topic, the most efficient distribution is a true distribution. You get 1/(population) amount of everything, dictated by an all-powerful power. But that's not what you're really asking, is it?

To have a realistic distribution of resources that is fair to the human population as a whole requires complete globalization. As long as there are militaristic countries with sovereign currencies (AKA manipulable currencies, there will be unequal distribution.
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Old 03-15-2016, 06:47 AM
 
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What would be the most efficient means of distributing resources and wealth in a world without work/jobs? Or at least a world where there is not enough work for all?

It's getting to the point where many jobs are as simple as pushing a button. As technology progresses, tasks will be made easier, jobs may be consolidated and lost, and a growing share of the population will not be able to function in our economic system.

Realistically, work will continue to be relevent for a long time. Even if the system is not efficient, "work" gives purpose to millions, and keeps them busy and occupied. That way, the crooks in DC can continue to rob them blind.
Have everyone work less?
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Old 03-15-2016, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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Billionaires do not work, yet they are rich. The simple solution is to make it easy for new innovators to enter profitable closed fields like finance, medicine etc. A new and open stock trading system where people can participate directly, the ending of central banking and the encouragement of peer to peer lending will allow the average person to get unearned income just like the elites. It is true that simple minded low IQ breeders need work to keep them busy but many of us do not need a job to be productive and innovative. I believe that technology improves more when people have more free time and are not forced to work dead end jobs to pay BIg Brother.
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