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You just don't get it, so I would say you deserve your fate. There are lots of places with good jobs, more jobs than qualified employees. With the internet it has never been easier to look for a job in other parts of the country. Once you find an employer and a job and a salary that fit, then you and employer are the winners. Again, I say, all of your whining about the bad job market gets you nothing. Spend some of that effort looking and you are very likely to succeed. Schools don't seem to teach people how to market themselves and how to look for jobs. That does not mean you cannot learn.
There is a saying about those who help themselves. I can't imagine the hundreds and hundreds of hours I spent in my career looking for jobs. I had to move and find new jobs several times because companies I worked for went out of business, once I was fired and several times I moved for better jobs. Once I was really stuck. Before the era of computers and word processing, I hand typed 200 letters trying to find job leads. BTW, I never got a single lead from that effort, but I did eventually find a great job by other inquiries. I suspect I am just wasting my words. Some people just either don't get it or don't bother to make the efforts needed to find good jobs and advance their careers.
"Wherever you go, there you are." It's a cliche, but true.
Moving is not a perfect solution, anyway. When you move you lose your support network. It takes at least 2 years to build a new one. I moved across the country for jobs a couple times. Sometimes I wonder if it was worth it. I've lived in my current location for almost 4 years and still don't have very friends - by which I mean people I can count on for something. I'm friendly with a bunch of people, but very few can I count on to help me with something. It's also not cheap. There's no way to NOT invest several thousand in a move. You can truck your stuff or you can garage sale it all, fit what's left in your car and buy new furniture, etc... in your new location. Either way you're out a few grand minimum.
As I said, if the solution to our economic trouble was that individuals just need to figure out they need to move, then we would not have nationwide anxiety about the economy; it would only be regional. In the smaller towns, there are not enough jobs. In the bigger metros, there are many more job seekers than there are jobs.
Things are good, for the top 10-20%, especially the top 1%, but what else is new. Then for another 30% or so... they're not doing great but are not on the edge either. Then about half the population is on the edge.
Are you truly incapable of understanding that this isn't about me? I've never complained about jobs here, and I've never even tried to get one. Rather I hire people to work for me. The local economy seems to be doing fine (mine certainly is) but that is also irrelevant on an economics forum.
But since you asked, most people who make good money here work for themselves or own a business. The main industry is tourism. People come to ski, hike, camp, horse ride, bike ride, play golf, go to the horse races or casino, etc. Many have 2nd homes here. It's got one of the best climates in the US. The 3 contiguous towns have a population of >10k, and there is a fine enough hospital.
I live in a similar type of area. Beautiful & touristy. There are no jobs for regular people in them. I work for the community college so I have a good job, but I fear my wife will never find anything better than McDonald's type work. I mean, the Lowe's nearby us is hiring. Woohoo. She has a ton of education too, so it's going to be bad for her to swallow that bitter pill. All that school for nothing. It may end our marriage in the not too distant future, since I've been trying to look for similar work elsewhere and have failed; it's like I won the lottery here but can never leave.
Can't relate. I haven't looked for work in my profession since I was 30. My wife never did. I don't know what her schooling is in, but at least around here if you have some brains you can make a decent living doing something. Gotta be creative. Work for yourself. Find something where you can parlay your talents or consult online.
How would you know which well paying jobs will be demand in a couple of years? Maybe you could predict them but that is a guess at beast. Again even if there is there is not gonna be enough for everybody. Sounds like you are making stuff up.
I cannot tell you which good jobs will be in demand years or decades from now. I can only tell you with high reliability about fields I worked in. If you are interested in other fields you need to do the research. Sure there is always some guessing, especially long term. In fact you can be quite sure that the skills and jobs of today will change substantially over time.
I can tell you about the field I worked in, which was medical technology. There is already a huge level of computerization and automated instrumentation involved. It still takes a tens of thousands of people to keep the automated labs running and to provide service throughout the country at all times. There is huge growth occurring and predicted due to the increased sophistication of medical sciences. In addition there is a potential crisis in staffing. For complex historical reasons and due to the introduction of automation, most training programs closed decades ago. There is only a trickle of new grads who have entered the field. A very high percentage of the workforce is boomers who are just starting to retire.
I can tell you about the fields my two daughters went into. One is in social services, specifically child protective services. These are government jobs with modest pay but great benefits including early retirement. There is extremely high demand for individuals who have appropriate training. She has been at it about 10 years. She has had two promotions and is expecting a major promotion to supervisor within a couple more years. My younger daughter went into music. Clearly that is a poor career choice, but she gained some experience in music technology. She volunteered and got some experience working in a radio station as an assistant to the station engineer. She also worked a minimum wage job testing speakers and microphones. Now she is working for a large company that consults on A/V installations. After 5 years with that company she is migrating towards the part of the company that provides consultation on acoustics. It is a booming field and hardly anyone has the training and education needed. The company she works for is providing on the job training and lots of educational seminars. Her salary has doubled in 5 years because as she learns more and can do more her skills means head hunters are calling.
My knowledge is very minimal. I maybe know the employment basics of another dozen or so fields just because I have had some involvement or know people who work in those fields. It is not at all difficult to gain a lot of knowledge about the employment opportunities and pay in various fields. My son in law did some research and found that in this area there is a demand for people who are can due mold and/or lead testing. He found that it was quick and inexpensive to take the 40 hour training course, take the exam and get licensed. He has been operating his own business for a couple of years. He is doing Ok but even more valuable he has learned how to start and operate a small business.
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Moving is not a perfect solution, anyway. When you move you lose your support network. It takes at least 2 years to build a new one. I moved across the country for jobs a couple times. Sometimes I wonder if it was worth it. I've lived in my current location for almost 4 years and still don't have very friends.........
It's also not cheap. .......
I certainly understand about the difficulty of moving. I had to move several times to get any job, then to replace jobs when companies when out of business. I also moved for better jobs and I was transferred across the country with one job. Some moves I had to pay out of my pocket and some I received some help from my new employer. Moving is hard. So are a lot of things in life, including building a career. I envy those who had easy lives where everything seemed to fall into place. That seems to be the exception with many jobs and careers. Over the years I participated in some hobby activities and made friends that way. But the truth is they were more casual friends and not the true friends we all want and can rely on.
America was build by people who were willing to try new things and to move to new places. My parents moved across country 4 times due to jobs. My maternal grandparents migrated from Italy. My paternal grandparents literally moved across country in a wagon train and one died soon after the trek. By comparison modern moves are a lot less traumatic.
I cannot tell you which good jobs will be in demand years or decades from now. I can only tell you with high reliability about fields I worked in. If you are interested in other fields you need to do the research. Sure there is always some guessing, especially long term. In fact you can be quite sure that the skills and jobs of today will change substantially over time.
I can tell you about the field I worked in, which was medical technology. There is already a huge level of computerization and automated instrumentation involved. It still takes a tens of thousands of people to keep the automated labs running and to provide service throughout the country at all times. There is huge growth occurring and predicted due to the increased sophistication of medical sciences. In addition there is a potential crisis in staffing. For complex historical reasons and due to the introduction of automation, most training programs closed decades ago. There is only a trickle of new grads who have entered the field. A very high percentage of the workforce is boomers who are just starting to retire.
I can tell you about the fields my two daughters went into. One is in social services, specifically child protective services. These are government jobs with modest pay but great benefits including early retirement. There is extremely high demand for individuals who have appropriate training. She has been at it about 10 years. She has had two promotions and is expecting a major promotion to supervisor within a couple more years. My younger daughter went into music. Clearly that is a poor career choice, but she gained some experience in music technology. She volunteered and got some experience working in a radio station as an assistant to the station engineer. She also worked a minimum wage job testing speakers and microphones. Now she is working for a large company that consults on A/V installations. After 5 years with that company she is migrating towards the part of the company that provides consultation on acoustics. It is a booming field and hardly anyone has the training and education needed. The company she works for is providing on the job training and lots of educational seminars. Her salary has doubled in 5 years because as she learns more and can do more her skills means head hunters are calling.
My knowledge is very minimal. I maybe know the employment basics of another dozen or so fields just because I have had some involvement or know people who work in those fields. It is not at all difficult to gain a lot of knowledge about the employment opportunities and pay in various fields. My son in law did some research and found that in this area there is a demand for people who are can due mold and/or lead testing. He found that it was quick and inexpensive to take the 40 hour training course, take the exam and get licensed. He has been operating his own business for a couple of years. He is doing Ok but even more valuable he has learned how to start and operate a small business.
What fields are you interested in?
So in other words you lied you said you said you knew fields that would have oppurtunties when you did not. Thanks for admitting you do not know what you are talking about you seemed to be the only one who did not know that.
So in other words you lied you said you said you knew fields that would have oppurtunties when you did not. Thanks for admitting you do not know what you are talking about you seemed to be the only one who did not know that.
I described three, actually four with my son in laws business. I mentioned I know of some others and asked what fields you are interested in. I fail to understand how you decided I lied to you.
You are still missing the main point. Rather than total negativity, you can do better in finding jobs and in life, if you take the time to learn what is happening. There are countless sources of information on jobs and pay. There is no magic source of information. You need to research each field separately. I would guess that if you are specific and ask for information, you will get some help even on this forum. And this forum is clearly not the best place to ask for such help.
In a new CNNMoney/E*Trade survey of Americans who have at least $10,000 in an online trading account, over half (52%) gave the U.S. economy as a "C" grade. Another 15% rated the economy a "D" or "F."
If jobs are strong and we have almost "full" employment.
Where the hell is that growth??
Don't you think in such environment there would be some growth??
Like at least 3%!
GDP growth rates:
2015 3.1%
2014 3.9%
2013 4.1%
Clearly the growth rate has been low, but inflation has also been low. Also even counting the influx of high fertility illegal aliens, the population growth has been near record lows. So the low growth rate is not as bad as it seems.
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