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Old 04-24-2016, 03:59 PM
 
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Same here, I pay a hell of a lot of taxes but don't get squat in return. Even when I'm old, even though I paid to help fund medicaid (paying for the poor), I won't qualify for help and I'll be on my own.

That doesn't mean I support higher taxes or socialism. In fact the opposite. Government income limits will still be too low and the people who pay for everything will get squat the same as is true today.

The value of government help is a hell of a lot but only the poor qualify and the rest of us middle class are screwed and on our own. That's why a poor person crying the blues is like fingernails on the chalk board. What they get for free, we work all our lives and then pay full ticket price.

If you don't believe it, learn about medicare and medicaid, you'll see.
In the end Medicare is a good deal for almost any beneficiary.
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Old 04-24-2016, 04:06 PM
 
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So we became Denmark!!!
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Old 04-24-2016, 10:11 PM
 
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In the end Medicare is a good deal for almost any beneficiary.
As I said... Medicaid is worth a hell of a lot more and those people don't even pay for it. That's why a poor person crying the blues is like fingernails on the chalk board.
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Old 04-26-2016, 09:54 PM
 
Location: London
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You might be comparing her income tax rate with your total tax rate.

Norway has one of the highest VATs in the world at 25% general, 15% food, 8% services.

You say you don't get squat, did you go to a public school for 18 years? Will you receive social security? What about medicare? Do you enjoy driving on the highways? Ever had foreign occupiers invade and take your stuff?
1) I didn't go to a public school all 18 (actually 17) years.
2) Lol, good one. No.
3) At this rate, if the same thing happens as with SS, probably not.
4) I don't drive, I take public transit, which I pay for.
5) No, and we likely still wouldn't if we spent a little less than as much as the next 8 nations combined on the military.

I'm having nearly half my income eaten alive just for it to be squandered. I'm not saying eliminate taxes, but there's a lot of waste and misplaced priorities going on when it comes to the US budget.
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Old 04-27-2016, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Spain
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1. So you did go to public school though
2. Yes, you will receive social security
3. Yes, Medicare will be there
4. Public transit is subsidized, it doesn't pay for itself
5. Maybe, maybe not point being you enjoy (and apparently take for granted) the protection and freedoms the military provides

You incorrect assumptions about things you'll get from your government don't mean you won't get them, and I'm fairly skeptical that half your income goes to taxes.
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Old 04-27-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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Did we ask the engineer if he is OK with the arrangement?

After all how does the engineer make a living without the ditch digger?
Wow, what a reach lol
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Old 04-27-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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Wow, what a reach lol
Maybe the engineer is OK with the arrangement, as he gets his, they get theirs.

The engineer makes money say designing a project, and that project may well be set into motion and accomplished with the use of many lower level workers.
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