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Old 04-21-2016, 04:01 PM
 
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Don't even think about it folks

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It was not enough, and as the FT reports today, what until now was merely a terrible start to the year has turned absolutely brutal for Odey's European fund, which is now down nearly a third, or 31%, in the first four months of the year, wiping out almost half a decade of trading profits in his flagship hedge fund in less than four months. His more popular EOC MAC Macro Fund did not do much better, and plunged a whopping 24.4% in the month, one of its worst monthly performances in history, pushing the YTD total to -26.8% which is shaping up to be the worst year for Odey since its inception year of 1994.


A Terrible Start To 2016 Turns Absolutely Brutal For Odey Who Refuses To Stop "Fighting The Fed" | Zero Hedge

I think shorters are totally crazy!!

There are literally hired guns paid to kill shorters.

And plunge protection team
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Old 04-22-2016, 10:57 AM
 
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Betting against the FED's printing press is a loosing proposition. But the article is poignant, it talks of the falling margins the banks are facing from QE. You want inflation and higher interest rates? Up the minimum wage far enough to push prices. The banks need something to loan against. New wages are what we can get. With over capacity you get over production. With over production you get falling prices, and that kills the banks.


We need inflation. Lots of it. Target 10% or 20% annual inflation. With that we can have very high interest rates and restore profitability to the banks.
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Old 04-22-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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Betting against the FED's printing press is a loosing proposition. But the article is poignant, it talks of the falling margins the banks are facing from QE. You want inflation and higher interest rates? Up the minimum wage far enough to push prices. The banks need something to loan against. New wages are what we can get. With over capacity you get over production. With over production you get falling prices, and that kills the banks.


We need inflation. Lots of it. Target 10% or 20% annual inflation. With that we can have very high interest rates and restore profitability to the banks.
They are taking care of that as well but not with MW.

They decided to prop up commodities to create inflation.

No wonder commodities are in a bull market.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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meh, perma-longs are right until they are wrong. And when they are wrong, it gets ugly...FAST.

Personally, I dont play the market, I invest in sound funds/stocks and diversify, but the way the fed is printing money and keeping interest rates this low artificially is UNPRECEDENTED. Do you think it will last forever? The same people saying "dont fight the fed. I've been right for 6 years!!" were the same ones claiming real estate never "went down", except when it did they lost their a&& and then some.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:50 PM
 
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meh, perma-longs are right until they are wrong. And when they are wrong, it gets ugly...FAST.

Personally, I dont play the market, I invest in sound funds/stocks and diversify, but the way the fed is printing money and keeping interest rates this low artificially is UNPRECEDENTED. Do you think it will last forever? The same people saying "dont fight the fed. I've been right for 6 years!!" were the same ones claiming real estate never "went down", except when it did they lost their a&& and then some.
I think low rates will continue for a long time.

Probably for another decade
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:52 PM
 
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I think low rates will continue for a long time.

Probably for another decade
What will you do when low rates arent able to prop-up bad economies anymore?
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:59 PM
 
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What will you do when low rates arent able to prop-up bad economies anymore?
Check Bernanke's blog.

Ben Bernanke's Blog | Brookings Institution

Basically negative rates, targeted longer-term rates and helicopter money.

This guy is a genius!

I'm a huge fan of his blog
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Old 04-22-2016, 01:37 PM
 
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Check Bernanke's blog.

Ben Bernanke's Blog | Brookings Institution

Basically negative rates, targeted longer-term rates and helicopter money.

This guy is a genius!

I'm a huge fan of his blog
Guys like you with posts like this ensure me that it is just like last time and If im patient will make a killing picking up the pieces.
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Old 04-22-2016, 02:06 PM
 
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What will you do when low rates arent able to prop-up bad economies anymore?
Negative interest rates.

Or, basically, a complete economic meltdown.

Our economy has been slowly twirling around the porcelain throne for quite some time. Negative rates will cause Nemo to finally make his way down to the sewer system.
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Old 04-22-2016, 04:53 PM
 
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What will you do when low rates arent able to prop-up bad economies anymore?
Japan is upping their minimum wage % each year. Up our to $15hr and then a % each year after and that would get us growth.


Also getting US minimum wage to apply to a labor performed for the US market.
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