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Old 04-25-2016, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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It hasn't lagged behind Social Security, VA and SSI payments or the official federal COLA rates.


The federal minimum wage back in 1986 was $3.35, today its $7.25

The federal SSI payment back in 1986 was $336/month, today its $733.


Both up about 117% over the past 30 years.


Impoverished working people aren't falling behind any more than fixed income senior citizens, and are probably doing BETTER than them as old people spend a lot more on medical care which has risen by a greater amount than the cost of living in general
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Old 04-25-2016, 08:35 AM
 
Location: WA
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Certainly not if you consider tax policies. Minimum wage earners for many years payed income tax without the Earned Income tax rebates.
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Old 04-25-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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There should be NO minimum wage...!
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Old 04-25-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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We don't care about senior citizens.
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Old 04-25-2016, 01:44 PM
 
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It hasn't lagged behind Social Security, VA and SSI payments or the official federal COLA rates.


The federal minimum wage back in 1986 was $3.35, today its $7.25

The federal SSI payment back in 1986 was $336/month, today its $733.


Both up about 117% over the past 30 years.


Impoverished working people aren't falling behind any more than fixed income senior citizens, and are probably doing BETTER than them as old people spend a lot more on medical care which has risen by a greater amount than the cost of living in general

Minimum wage has lagged behind the ACTUAL cost of living experienced by many people who earn it. In my area, rents increased 15 percent last year while CPI shrugged. If minimum wage workers owned their homes and had fixed rate mortgages, you'd have a point.
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Old 04-25-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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There should be NO minimum wage...!

Then there should be NO artificial government housing restrictions which unnecessarily cause the cost of housing to skyrocket for minimum wage workers.

You seem to want a free market in labor but not in housing, which is nuts unless you're okay with largescale homelessness.
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Old 04-25-2016, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Inflation has not stood still, Washington keeps jacking it up. That is the real problem.
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Old 04-25-2016, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Minimum wage has lagged behind the ACTUAL cost of living experienced by many people who earn it. In my area, rents increased 15 percent last year while CPI shrugged. If minimum wage workers owned their homes and had fixed rate mortgages, you'd have a point.
Fair enough analysis.


But since minimum wage hasn't kept up, neither have the old folks as their checks haven't kept up with the same inflationary cycle.


If the minimum wage gets raised, as proposed to $15, should not the checks for SSI and Social Security recipients be doubled as well?
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Old 04-25-2016, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Atlantis
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Its still possible for someone to survive on minimum wage as long as they get state and federal benefits like:


Section 8 housing


EBT


Medicaid
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Old 04-25-2016, 03:42 PM
 
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Its still possible for someone to survive on minimum wage as long as they get state and federal benefits like:


Section 8 housing


EBT


Medicaid

I'm not sure whether able-bodied childless non-seniors can get Section 8, I've never seen it.
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