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Old 10-02-2016, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Spain
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We need to raise taxes on the Rich and make them pay for affordable healthcare coverage and for the survival of the nation tomorrow when Depression kicks in.
What time should we expect this depression to begin?

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If they refuse to pay then we should strip them off their wealth and citizenship + send them to isolated foreign islands!!!
Wipe the spittle from your monitor.

 
Old 10-02-2016, 12:35 PM
 
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What time should we expect this depression to begin?
As soon as the rates are allowed to go back up or do you think rates are going to stay artificially low for the rest of your life? You will go thru DEPRESSION Lieqlieng, you will meet your God again. 380% DEBT to GDP and climbing is making sure that we all are going to experience Depression.

You seem to be thinking that there is no way I can predict the future (or at least generally subscribe the future) based on the past. But a scientist could generally subscribe that Winter will begin on December 21 every year. How can he do this: by studying past behavior. And by studying the laws (the universals) this past behavior suggests. That's all I'm doing.

What do scientists do in their labs Lieqianq???? They perform tests over and over again, and then describe general laws based on the past performance of phenomena. That's what I'm doing.

History's universals repeat. It is just the details that don't repeat in a verbatum sense. The clothes are different; but the Solar Structure (as in Soul's Structure) is the same. So yes, we are going to experience Great Depression again and no one can stop it from happening. The West has forgotten its God. It has worshipped Man's image, wealth, Earthly power, the Master's of the Universe are no longer the Gods and the Angels, they are the Master's on Wall Street. Worshiping Master's on Wall Street is worshiping false Gods. We all are going to be punished for worshiping false Gods!!!
 
Old 10-03-2016, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Spain
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As soon as the rates are allowed to go back up or do you think rates are going to stay artificially low for the rest of your life? You will go thru DEPRESSION Lieqlieng, you will meet your God again. 380% DEBT to GDP and climbing is making sure that we all are going to experience Depression.
Okay bookmarked, when rates rise we'll check back here to see how the DEPRESSION is going.


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You seem to be thinking that there is no way I can predict the future (or at least generally subscribe the future) based on the past.
No, I think there is no way you can predict the future based on a few things:

1. How often you constantly claim everyone else is naive. In my experience the greatest fool is the one who brags that everyone else is the fool. Therefore I can only reasonable conclude that would be you.

2. Your propensity for hyperbole and exaggeration. This boils down to being dishonest with yourself and others, why would I believe someone could predict the future when they must distort facts to make their argument?

3. Your habit of generating opinions for others then attacking them. People who are forced to constantly use strawman fallacy are incapable of letting their argument stand on merit.

4. You post basically the same thread in different formats over and over. This gives the impression that you are emotionally vested in this issue, and anyone forming opinions based on emotion is a poor prognosticator.


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The West has forgotten its God. It has worshipped Man's image, wealth, Earthly power, the Master's of the Universe are no longer the Gods and the Angels, they are the Master's on Wall Street. Worshiping Master's on Wall Street is worshiping false Gods. We all are going to be punished for worshiping false Gods!!!
5. Irrational gibberish that sounds like it is being shouted by some fat middle aged preacher in rural Arkansas clutching rattlesnakes in his hands and sweat stains under the armpits of his Sears 60% cotton shirt.
 
Old 10-03-2016, 07:15 AM
 
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60% cotton and rattle snakes. That's a tough gig.
 
Old 10-03-2016, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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Default Making more stuff in the USA

ISM Manufacturing index increased to 51.5 in September 2016

Calculated Risk: ISM Manufacturing index increased to 51.5 in September

 
Old 10-03-2016, 09:52 AM
 
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60% cotton and rattle snakes. That's a tough gig.
Full of Sound and Fury, signifying nothing.
 
Old 10-03-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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ISM Manufacturing index increased to 51.5 in September 2016

Calculated Risk: ISM Manufacturing index increased to 51.5 in September
Raise rates and cleanse our souls!

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=2i1D
 
Old 10-03-2016, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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Default Everyone loves cars: the data are strong

Calculated Risk: U.S. Light Vehicle Sales increase to 17.7 million annual rate in September

U.S. Light Vehicle Sales increase to 17.7 million annual rate in September

 
Old 10-03-2016, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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We need to tax rich individuals and rich corporations more and they should pay for affordable health treatments for all Americans. Yes, just like in Canada, Australia, Great Britain, Germany, Sweden and etc. Tomorrow when we slip into a DEPRESSION, the rich need to pay for the SURVIVAL OF OUR NATION.

The US Constitution authorizes the government to tax. Most of anti-tax rich people like having a big powerful army, like having nice big clean roads for their big fast German cars, like having clean schools to send their children for education (and they like paying teachers less and less to do this), they like having big prisons to keep bad guys off the streets of suburbia, they like bridges that don't fall down; they like having an army of police in case bad guys try to break into their large house(s). They don't like services for poor people; yes, I realize that. It's the taxation FOR THE POOR they don't like; but the taxation for the rich they do like. I see.

Rich Americans are not over-taxed. Their soul is just being underrepresented in their political philosophy. Fascism wants to destroy the poor, kill out the shadow, because it fears the shadow, fears being absorbed into the racial shadow-land, through a shared poverty. It's understandable. No one likes to lose power. That's why Economic Depression is built in to the system: so that the proud, rich, overlords will have to lose their pride, fall down to the ground, discover their knees again, their vulnerability, their heart, and, thereby, become human again.

Good luck in resisting this process.

Finally, you have given us insight into your real motivations and your real thinking!

All your pseudo-economic blathering, which heretofore has been a great mystery, now becomes clear. You hate the "rich" and fantasize about them getting their comeuppance. You are a genuine hater in that you define the group you hate as less than human.


"Economic depression is built into the system" (according to you) in order to insure some type of ultimate "justice" for the group you see as evil. So who, or what group, built the "system" with that in mind? It should be obvious that our complex economic system has evolved over centuries, guided by human hands often motivated by self-interest, without there being any ultimate, mystical purpose or pre-ordained end result.


Move it to the Religion Forum, my friend.
 
Old 10-03-2016, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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Finally, you have given us insight into your real motivations and your real thinking!

All your pseudo-economic blathering, which heretofore has been a great mystery, now becomes clear. You hate the "rich" and fantasize about them getting their comeuppance. You are a genuine hater in that you define the group you hate as less than human.


"Economic depression is built into the system" (according to you) in order to insure some type of ultimate "justice" for the group you see as evil. So who, or what group, built the "system" with that in mind? It should be obvious that our complex economic system has evolved over centuries, guided by human hands often motivated by self-interest, without there being any ultimate, mystical purpose or pre-ordained end result.


Move it to the Religion Forum, my friend.
I don't agree with much of what C2BP says, but in an era of gross inequality, where the wealthiest 1% enjoy a greatly disproportionate share of income and wealth... I'd say it's matter of course that they should pay a disproportionate share of taxes.. Who else can pay? They have most of the money.
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