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Old 06-17-2016, 01:50 PM
 
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Personally I don't mind seeing athletes making all that money. They have talents that <0.001% of the population have .
But that's just pure luck because of genes and has nothing to do with anything they did themselves.
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Old 06-17-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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But that's just pure luck because of genes and has nothing to do with anything they did themselves.
They still had to work on their skills.
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Old 06-17-2016, 03:46 PM
 
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They still had to work on their skills.
Sure, but even work rate is heavily determined by genes and very early childhood which they didnt have anything to do with.
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Old 06-17-2016, 04:31 PM
 
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Sure, but even work rate is heavily determined by genes and very early childhood which they didnt have anything to do with.
I think that is a pretty simple view. Someone like Lebron James had to work pretty hard on his skills despite winning the genetic lottery.
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Old 06-17-2016, 04:48 PM
 
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I think that is a pretty simple view. Someone like Lebron James had to work pretty hard on his skills despite winning the genetic lottery.
And would he have worked hard if he had no genetic or early childhood disposition to work hard? When studies like this show how crucial genes truly are:

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She put her subjects on the treadmill for 30 minutes of observed exercise. However, at the end of the prescribed time, she said to each participant, “Your 30 minutes of exercise are complete. You now have a choice: you can either begin a 5-minute cool down, or keep going at this pace for 5 more minutes and then begin your cool down. It’s totally up to you.â€

Caldwell Hooper was looking to get around problem that often confuses the scientific study of peoples’ desire to exercise--when subjects come into a lab for these studies, they’re exercising because that’s what they’re being instructed to do. Caldwell Hooper found that about half of her sample chose to keep going for the optional 5 minutes, and half didn’t. When she compared the genetic testing results between the two groups, she found that those with one form of the BDNF gene were significantly more likely to have continued running than those without it.

Bryan’s research dovetails with another major research effort
Exercise and Genetics: Is the Will to Work Out Hereditary? - The Daily Beast
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Old 06-17-2016, 06:10 PM
 
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It's obscene for people to make $100 million for bouncing a ball.
No it isn't.

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But it would be even more obscene for the owners to get the money.
No it wouldn't.


You are free to vote with your wallet. Do not attend, watch or listen to any professional sporting event.
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Old 06-17-2016, 06:51 PM
 
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And would he have worked hard if he had no genetic or early childhood disposition to work hard? When studies like this show how crucial genes truly are:



Exercise and Genetics: Is the Will to Work Out Hereditary? - The Daily Beast
Look, there is definitely a genetic attribute that allows some people an advantage. As a big NBA fan, you would be surprised how many genetic lottery winners don't last long because they don't put in the work on the other side of the ball (actual basketball skills). One could make the argument that most NFL players are underpaid considering the brain trauma, they average 1.9 million per year which is last among major pro sports.

Lastly, sports is a big industry now in America and globally. Here in North America 2014:


America’s $60 billion plus sports business, in five charts

It makes sense that salaries have jumped so high when revenue has jumped with it. NBA may have another shutdown over the collective bargaining agreement, where owners and players argue over their slice of the pie.
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Old 06-18-2016, 09:10 PM
 
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Amid this debate, I will admit a special admiration for sports such as golf and tennis.

Because, while a football, basketball, hockey, or baseball player is on contract and gets paid a base whether he's MVP or rides the pine, golfers and tennis players only eat what they kill, so to speak. If you don't make the cut, you don't make your nut.
That is like professional boxers as well.
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Old 06-18-2016, 09:44 PM
 
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But that's just pure luck because of genes and has nothing to do with anything they did themselves.
You're out of your mind. Yes, good genes has a lot to do with it. But if you don't think that training, discipline, training, savvy, and more training wasn't involved to hone an athlete's skill to a razor sharp edge, then that's might potent crack you're smoking.

Lots and lots and lots of kids out there with the physical tools. A very small percentage actually learn to use those tools to get to the big leagues.
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:28 AM
 
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Honestly, all sports players are over paid.. Millions just to play a 2 hour game or less.. Just luck of the straw or something.. I vote not to watch as i dont want to keep feeding them. Kids today see them as role models and think they can be super stars one day. Not going to give there hopes up, but they need a fall back plan. How many sports players have a fall back plan they can do if they get injured. Not many.. If you take away their huge salary, see how many play the game for what it is, than just show up and get paid. Im sure back in the day, you didnt get paid well unless you win games. Now they get paid no matter what, main reason why you see games that are dull and boring.
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