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Old 12-07-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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everyone who cries about technology getting rid of jobs are short sighted. This is one of the most ingenious ideas I've seen in a long time. It is a little big brother but it will also do wonders for loss prevention if you can't even enter a store without scanning your identity. There will be 0 shoplifting if this had widespread adoption....oh but what about all the mall cops and security guard's jobs???
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:55 PM
 
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I have no problem with people complaining about the loss of employment opportunities so long as they are not contributing to it. However, I find it absolutely hilarious when people embrace technological changes without regard for who end up unemployed, yet screams like some spanked whinny entitled brat when their job is the next one on the line. Those are the people I just love to throw it back in their faces.
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:23 PM
 
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I can't stand it when people try to halt progress in the name of jobs. It's not anyone's duty to hire humans to do work that isn't valuable, which is why they are quickly being replaced by robots anywhere possible. It's incumbent upon the human to figure out how to provide value to the employer, and we're approaching a time where simply showing up to work and having a heartbeat is no longer enough value to receive the (increasing) minimum wage.

It's not Amazon's fault, or anyone else's, that technology does things cheaper, better, and quicker than humans. Just yesterday I saw a video of bricklaying robot that lays 2,000 bricks per day as compared to a mason's 500 bricks per day. A construction company can buy two or three of those robots and be building around the clock, on holidays and weekends, and during union lunch breaks.
How are people going to make money, if even jobs like customer service and construction work become automated? There can only be so many doctors, attorneys, and engineers. Not everybody can be a engineer.
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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The women on the evening news were all a-twitter about not having to stand in a checkout line ever again.

So far this only works for pre-packaged items. Produce and bulk foods can't be automated, but if you want to buy your broccoli in little boxes for a price premium, this is for you.
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:00 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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How are people going to make money, if even jobs like customer service and construction work become automated? There can only be so many doctors, attorneys, and engineers. Not everybody can be a engineer.
I agree. The OP is cynical. Why should I buy a product or service anymore? I'll just keep my money and watch the 1% go into penury.

We won't need doctors anymore. People will avoid treatment because the visit costs too much. Engineers--everything is already built--You're fired!!! Lawyers--that's harder but people will settle disputes between themselves, so no need for them.
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Spain
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I prefer to conduct much of my day to day business with living, breathing human beings, not machines, robots, and automated systems. Eliminating the human element makes our world colder and more impersonal, bit by bit. That is not progress, IMO.
So curious = do you use ATMs or go into the bank to stand in line and write a check when you need cash? Maybe respond delightedly when teller with big smile asks how your day is going.

What about getting gas, do you walk inside and give cash for the prepay, so you can exchange pleasantries with the guy behind the counter?

If one toll lane has the hopper you throw coins into and you have the coins, do you instead pull into the longer slow moving line at the cash window so you can comment on the weather to the attendant?

Etc.

I'm genuinely curious how far you take it to avoid automation.
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:24 PM
 
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eh...it also depends how much people can travel. Not all jobs pay the same amount. I'm in a place that's in a construction boom. But construction only booms for so long. Give this another two years and it will probably slow.

People settle disputes without lawyers? Hardly. I'm not saying there's a ton of jobs for them but trust me getting things legally settled is a good thing. If you find yourself in trouble and the other side had a better lawfirm then you do then you are screwed. I had a friend who lost a relative due to the wrong drug being provided. They took too long in court (by themselves) and lost.

Doctors? of course people will go to doctors. Sure in poorer areas they might try to avoid some treatments but even then. Engineers? Everything built? Um what? Of course you'd still need them as things need to be replaced and refurblished.
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:40 PM
 
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I have an Amazon Store. I used to sell alot but they are squeezing the little guy out of selling on their platform.

Some listings display my photo, to this day, yet I cannot even list that item anymore.

Tried to list a DVD the other day. Of course I had to be approved for that category (Though I used to be approved and sold DVD's from time to time, no issues) then they declined approving me


Hardly any categories left they even allow me to list on. I make between $25-$50 a month now versus 4 times that for years. It helped alot back then. It was our spending money.

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Old 12-07-2016, 08:45 PM
 
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I have no problem with people complaining about the loss of employment opportunities so long as they are not contributing to it. However, I find it absolutely hilarious when people embrace technological changes without regard for who end up unemployed, yet screams like some spanked whinny entitled brat when their job is the next one on the line. Those are the people I just love to throw it back in their faces.
This is what I have witnessed to. In conversations on this topic I've found quite don't give a stuff as its not effecting their job and they think they are immune. Cashiers are going the way of chimney sweeps, and that's okay if new industries & professions pop up to replace them like in past eras, but with robots/AI/automation to me its more systemic and the technology is not only changing society but also competing with people. This is just an in your face case of something that is happening in many businesses bit by bit, and as someone else said training more less skilled individuals to be accountants, lawyers, architects, software developers is not going to be an ideal outcome unless the jobs are there for them at the end. Management will be immune to this of course, but then as industries consolidate and if too few companies dominate industry sectors there is going to be less management positions needed. If there are more unemployed and people on lower pay work, then economic growth will be low. I am not against technology but this is going to have bigger implications to society in the coming years, and businesses exploiting tech wont care, whether the general public will really care its hard to say, but the govt will need to factor it into policy.
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Old 12-07-2016, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I'm all for technology to make our lives better - but Amazon GO seems to have crossed the line.
There are no lines to cross.

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How many more millions of jobs are going to be lost, and what are all these people going to be doing?
There was a time in your history, about 60 years ago, when only 13% of households had two-wage earners. It is unnecessary and undesirable that each of the 125 Million households in the US have two wage-earners.

Sure, household income will decline, but that's no big deal, since it will put downward pressure on the price of most everything.

Like I've been saying for the last 8 years, you need to get used to things like "House-Husbands" -- men who stay at home and take care of the house, because there's no jobs for them.
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