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Old 01-10-2017, 08:56 AM
 
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The Heritage Foundation has no credibility when it comes to Social Security. They are funded by those who are well known to be hostile to Social Security.

Remember this about the cap. If upper management is compelled to contribute 6+ percent of their salary into the SS trust fund the corporation that they work for is obliged to kick in 6+ percent also. Removing the cap would be quite lucrative when it comes to funding the trust.

The upper crust with apologies to the fictional Krusty the clown would still have their stock options free from the burden of the evil socialist program that keeps millions out of poverty every year.
As the left would love to repeat. They love to raise other people tax. Note I don't even paying this tax.
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Old 01-10-2017, 08:58 AM
 
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For those of us who have been lucky have been able to work for the same company for thirty years or more, it is becoming more and more common that pensions are now being reduced along with other retirement benefits.

Social Security will be our last means of support as corporate America abandons their promise to us.

Do we dare let the billionaires undermine Social Security when good pensions are becoming a thing of the past?
Corporate America owns you nothing. If you didn't like them you start your own business. One of my kids did.
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:43 AM
 
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Not everybody is at the top of every profession. The trick is to know where you fit in the scheme of things.
Does "fitting in" make you feel good about yourself? How about forty years of it? Steve Jobs was no dummy. Find what you love and then do it.
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:48 AM
 
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Does "fitting in" make you feel good about yourself? How about forty years of it? Steve Jobs was no dummy. Find what you love and then do it.
Please don't twist my word. I said "fit in" as in where you stand in that the thing you love that you do. Where did I say Steve jobs was a dummy? But not everybody will be at the top of any profession, that by itself is a definition of top.
I know numerous people who are pretty good at something they love but not good enough to earn decent living. So they ended up doing something else that they like enough, not hate, but not their love.
The Internet has been spreading this nonsense for years. It's about time to set this straight.
You also forgot to say that even Steve Jobs was a genius but he was a terrible person in real life. Sorry I read his book so I know.
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Old 01-10-2017, 10:08 AM
 
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Select, don't settle.
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Old 01-10-2017, 10:15 AM
 
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Select, don't settle.
In the context of the conversation you are having that's a cop-out. What you are suggesting is highly unlikely for most. Continuing to spit do what you love and every field pays well at the top is unrealistic so repeating nonsense like that is nonesense.
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Old 01-10-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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Select, don't settle.
As long as you don't eat. Don't have rent to pay, live on their parents basement. But it does a disservice to millions of young people when they read or ask advice on some college boards and receive the same mantra.
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Old 01-10-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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As long as you don't eat. Don't have rent to pay, live on their parents basement. But it does a disservice to millions of young people when they read or ask advice on some college boards and receive the same mantra.
It's absurd advice in practical terms. Do what you love so long as it generally pays well or you can achieve top 5% in said field smh
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Old 01-10-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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New money is essentially "free" for institutional investors, yet there is no growth an average person can actually feel, no growth for decades, whatever little growth there is - its fruits are appropriated by a small % of population, the rest gets cheap electronic escapist devices & content to supplement drugs and alcohol. I dont really know for how long this could last without a major reset, a reset is a must since paying even small interest on debt requires growth (as insane as economy rooted in the cancerous growth is), the growth in many areas hit the wall of unsubsiding inequality and then there are looming natural cataclismic events like global warming, which doesnt exist, and resource depletion. The future is not bright, the current paradigm is doomed. The events like the Great Depression had no rational objective causes just stupidity of the system. That stupidity is still with us, but we also have looming dangers of non economic kind.
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Old 01-10-2017, 07:04 PM
 
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For those of us who have been lucky have been able to work for the same company for thirty years or more
There was a time, generations ago, where if someone changed jobs every 5 years or so, people would whisper, "What's wrong with Tony? Why can't he keep a job?"

For the past 20 years or so, if you DON'T change jobs every 5 years or so, people now whisper, "What's wrong with Tony? Why can't he find a new job?

Working for the same company for 30-40 years is not a badge of honor. It is a sign that something is wrong.

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Social Security will be our last means of support as corporate America abandons their promise to us.
Huh? Corporations have no promise to abandon in the first place.

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Last edited by toosie; 01-11-2017 at 03:36 AM.. Reason: Deleted partisan politics - and don't get too personal - the thread isn't about that poster
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