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Old 06-08-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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Reading through the last ten pages or so of posts, I've concluded that many in America are willing to live in what will surely become something akin to a third world society, can't afford medical help? Just die and be done with it. Can't afford housing, fine, live in the bushes behind the library. Hungry and broke? Too bad get a job, or a better job..Bathroom, well, anyplace but my front lawn. How many in America are travelling to these nations where the poor are tossed aside as a form of human garbage? Yet they refuse to see the trend of the US becoming one of these places.

Even if one has no heart for the poor, at the least, folks must love themselves enough to see their interests diminished by the presence of a possible large scale outbreak of disease, crime, and violent responses from those they have so easily dismissed. The consequences of a high tech society eating the lunch of the working class has yet to settle in on the general populace. Who for the most part thinks one really can live on an island of individual well being while never considering the others who are desperate, broke, and angry. The price of low income housing is relatively cheap when considering the other scenario which includes a mass uptick in homelessness, crime, and the possible outbreak of treatment resistant disease.

 
Old 06-08-2017, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Possibly, if the poor would like to live in nicer areas, they should somehow get their children to stop spraying graffiti and dealing with drugs, turn their stereos down, and stop acting like animals. That's why nobody wants a government program to put welfare families into their neighborhood. It's because crime goes up ad the neighborhood goes down and becomes less safe.

If you take ghetto raised welfare people out of the ghetto, they just take the ghetto with them. You can't realistically expect nice neighborhoods to welcome them with enthusiasm.
^^^^^This X1000
 
Old 06-08-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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I think it's 29 units per 100 people or households.
Per 100 ELI renter households, ie: 29 houses available out of every 100 extremely low income (ELI) households.

The best is the rust belt, with the combination of a surplus of houses and declining population and the deep south with the combination of practically everyone living there being an ELI household and no-body else wanting to move there.
 
Old 06-08-2017, 02:42 PM
 
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Maybe.
 
Old 06-08-2017, 07:22 PM
 
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What should the childless poor do?
Earn money.
 
Old 06-08-2017, 08:44 PM
 
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Baby boomers had a somewhat similar experience; the early boomers got the good jobs first, and for their working lives, late boomers had a glut of more-experienced workers ahead of them, impeding the late boomers' advancement path.
That may be, but in my neighborhood a lot of 40, 45, and 50 year olds are buying million-dollar houses, and the $2 million threshold will soon be breached. These are not late boomers but Gen X, and they're doing fine. I'm sure there are other GenX people who are not doing fine, but this large group proves it can be done.

By the way, where I live, they're not typically Ivy Leaguers, although there are a few. It's a Big Ten, plus UChicago, Notre Dame, etc. crowd.
 
Old 06-08-2017, 09:26 PM
 
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Earn money.

Been there, done that, flipping burgers doesn't pay well.
 
Old 06-08-2017, 09:42 PM
 
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Even when I had a **** job, I got mini raises to push me a dollar something over minimum wage. I literally worked less than 1 year in my life or less at actual minimum wage. There would have been supervisor opportunities that paid more had a some how stayed.

All labor markets are local. I had a summer job in Detroit flipping burgers and got a 10% raise in three weeks. Then I delivered pizzas in a college town and worked for a manager who did not give ANY raises to drivers.

He figured if drivers wanted more money they should step up their hustle and deliver more pizzas.

Which is a great way to promote unsafe driving.
 
Old 06-09-2017, 02:19 AM
 
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What should the childless poor do?
stay childless.
 
Old 06-09-2017, 07:57 AM
 
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Been there, done that, flipping burgers doesn't pay well.
Grow up and get a big-boy job, then earn more money.
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