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Old 03-26-2017, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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This is what will happen if Trump gets his wish and gets a ton of new manufacturing jobs: It will replace quality with quantity.

And for those of you proudly driving around your made-in-Alabama Hyundai bragging about how much better the quality is than something from GM or Ford, while reassuring your guilt about it not being an American car because it's made in Georgia or Mississippi, this is what you're actually paying for.

Inside Alabama’s Auto Jobs Boom: Cheap Wages, Little Training, Crushed Limbs
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Now Crutcher, 42, commutes an hour to the General Motors Co. assembly plant in Spring Hill, Tenn., where he’s a member of United Auto Workers. “They teach you the right way,” he says. “They don’t throw you to the wolves.” His pay rose from $12 an hour at Matsu to $18.21 at GM.

In 2014, OSHA’s Atlanta office, after detecting a high number of safety violations at the region’s parts suppliers, launched a crackdown. The agency cited one year, 2010, when workers in Alabama parts plants had a 50 percent higher rate of illness and injury than the U.S. auto parts industry as a whole. That gap has narrowed, but the incidence of traumatic injuries in Alabama’s auto parts plants remains 9 percent higher than in Michigan’s and 8 percent higher than in Ohio’s. In 2015 the chances of losing a finger or limb in an Alabama parts factory was double the amputation risk nationally for the industry, 65 percent higher than in Michigan and 33 percent above the rate in Ohio.
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Old 03-26-2017, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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So work at Walmart instead. It's a free country.
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Old 03-26-2017, 07:54 PM
 
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So work at Walmart instead. It's a free country.
Seriously, people who have never been to Alabama act like there are so many other great alternatives. At least at manufacturing there is structure and a career path. Not going from fries to front register. I'm willing to bet overall many more people are injured and killed going to and from work than actual on the job incidents.
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:07 PM
 
Location: north bama
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Factory worker killed by rogue robot | Wanda Holbrook death .. oh yeah !! jobs are much safer in the unionized north ...
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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... oh yeah !! jobs are much safer in the unionized north ...
In fact, they are. As my article pointed out:
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In 2014, OSHA’s Atlanta office, after detecting a high number of safety violations at the region’s parts suppliers, launched a crackdown. The agency cited one year, 2010, when workers in Alabama parts plants had a 50 percent higher rate of illness and injury than the U.S. auto parts industry as a whole. That gap has narrowed, but the incidence of traumatic injuries in Alabama’s auto parts plants remains 9 percent higher than in Michigan’s and 8 percent higher than in Ohio’s. In 2015 the chances of losing a finger or limb in an Alabama parts factory was double the amputation risk nationally for the industry, 65 percent higher than in Michigan and 33 percent above the rate in Ohio.
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Old 03-26-2017, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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They can always go back to the cotton patch, but not many would care to.
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Old 03-27-2017, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Spain
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I'd like to see the number of injuries put into perspective better, saying one area is 50% higher doesn't mean much if we're talking 6 people versus 9 people out of thousands of workers.
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Old 03-27-2017, 05:49 AM
 
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Car manufacturing doesn't just come to life with the flip of a switch. It takes a long time for an auto plant to mature, for people to master the routine and flow of work. A competent workforce takes even longer to develop.

All factories have growing pains and these include injuries. By the time the Alabama plants have been around as those in Marysville or Georgetown, they'll be just as safe and just as productive.
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Old 03-27-2017, 05:52 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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They can always go back to the cotton patch, but not many would care to.

Or just not have jobs at all. Maybe those factory workers could all go into IT or Programming.


Yeah, that'll work.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:56 AM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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Or Maybe they could just pay and train them better, i don't know. **Shrug**
Way to much jealousy and hate and not enough empathy for our fellow working Man.
A Good owner wants to see the whole team win, from the guy that sweeps the floor, all the way to his top executives.
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