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Old 05-15-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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No restrictive and costly government building, housing, electrical, plumbing, mechanical, etc codes.
You're free to move to Brazil or Haiti if you want to live that way. I suspect a few years living in a favela would change your mind about the desirability of building codes.

 
Old 05-15-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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I suspect a few years living in a favela would change your mind about the desirability of building codes.
The key may lie in moving somewhere outside the reach of FOX TV.
 
Old 05-15-2017, 08:59 PM
 
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The key may lie in moving somewhere outside the reach of FOX TV.

I currently live outside the reach of FOX TV; I do not own a TV.
 
Old 05-15-2017, 11:20 PM
 
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Believing that government is engaged in "class warfare" would be an example of "doing it wrong."
They are engaged in class warfare, and lots of other psy-ops on the populace. That doesn't mean you give up and make 29,000 complaint posts like freemkt does.

And no, I don't watch TV, either, including Fox News.
 
Old 05-15-2017, 11:25 PM
 
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That supposed "better infrastructure" is often carefully chosen according to circumstances which don't predominate outside the nations involved: France's TGV high-speed rail network is structured to take advantage of the fact that the city of Paris dominates all of French society in a manner not found in any other industrialized nation-state, and the Japanese shinkansen, which was actually conceived back in the Fifties, was successful in part because it could be "built from scratch" on the rubble of a society in near-complete ruin -- and because the culture of a nation with twice the population of California on the same amount of land (but land of much poorer suitability for agriculture) has no choice but to discourage individuality -- if your personal circumstances don't match those of the favored majority -- you are simply SOL!

These conditions don't exist in the United States and Canada -- nations built by generations of immigrants seeking a better live and (thankfully!) prone to the questioning of authority.
One minor quibble. Japan actually has more than 3X the population of California. Otherwise, great post!
 
Old 05-16-2017, 12:06 AM
 
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Believing that government is engaged in "class warfare" would be an example of "doing it wrong."

There is no broad or overarching "class warfare" conspiracy, but SOME elements of government, at some points in time, do engage in class warfare, often without even recognizing they are doing so.

The people doing it - typically local elected officials and bureaucrats - couch their motives and actions in innocuous-sounding terms such as "neighborhood preservation/integrity/stabilization/improvement" while the intent (and, often the outcome) is an increase in property values (and rents), and consequently, displacement of lower-income renters by higher-income gentrifiers.

Incumbent homeowners (read: voters) have vested financial and lifestyle interests in minimizing the proximate supply of neighbors of economic means inferior to their own. It should hardly be a surprise when local governments make policy decisions designed and intended to further the interests of their dominant constituency.

Would you like to tell us with a straight face that local governments don't promote the interests of their homeowners?

p.s. The vast majority of renters in this country have no clue what their local government is doing, but by remaining clueless, they also are doing it wrong.
 
Old 05-16-2017, 07:18 AM
 
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They are engaged in class warfare, and lots of other psy-ops on the populace.
Read much out-of-body experience nonsense at all? Can you tell us about the very real threat of chem-trails?

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And no, I don't watch TV, either, including Fox News.
While it might well turn the trick, you don't have to watch FOX News specifically in order to become hopelessly misled by FOX News.
 
Old 05-16-2017, 07:28 AM
 
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Would you like to tell us with a straight face that local governments don't promote the interests of their homeowners?
Because you are not a homeowner, you try to invent excusifying cabals of preferential treatment for that group. It's chiefly a product of paranoia, as local governments tend in fact to work for the interests of the community as a whole. This includes renters, all of whom are eligible to vote on the same basis as property owners.

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p.s. The vast majority of renters in this country have no clue what their local government is doing, but by remaining clueless, they also are doing it wrong.
Just another pointless attempt at excusification. Let me be the fiftieth or whatever to tell you that your problems are actually of your own making. You could improve your situation simply by daring to lift an actual finger in that cause.
 
Old 05-16-2017, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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I suspect he's actually a wealthy hedge fund manager, and assumes a different persona on C-D for fun.
 
Old 05-16-2017, 02:30 PM
 
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Read much out-of-body experience nonsense at all? Can you tell us about the very real threat of chem-trails?

I'm sure the comment to which you replied was 100% sarcasm.
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