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Old 05-07-2017, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Midland, MI
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Even if people made a good living in the 1950's, they had a more austere way of life. Many households had 1 car; many people using public transportation. Houses were much smaller and simpler. There weren't a lot of extras, like AC, stereos, computers and all that. People didn't eat out very often, they did simpler things for entertainment (movies, bowling, playing cards, etc).
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Old 05-08-2017, 03:10 AM
 
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Cheapskates are doing just fine.

About once a year, I meet someone who actually gets it. They buy property as soon as they can, they work extra jobs, pay off loans, and save every penny. They don't count on government for anything.

This kind of common sense is rare. Too bad.
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:42 AM
 
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What's too bad is calling that "common sense." Proud as some may be of it, there is nothing actually sensible in living a rag-picker's life.
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:53 AM
 
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I do see value in education, but how would you explain so many unemployed grads?
The worst general economic decline since the Great Depression. Surely you've heard of it. It was in all the papers.

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At what point does education become redundant to a workforce?
There has been no such point to date, and not many are expecting one. As was already noted above, the premium paid to extra years of education over initial years of work only grew larger during the Great Recession. This is why millions either stayed in school or went back to school during those times.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:00 AM
 
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It'd be less tax payer dollars if he just tricked the system into giving him SSI for life.
I'm sure you think it's a piece of cake to qualify.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:10 AM
 
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Quit pi**ing away other peoples tax money and get the hell to WORK.
Go back to school. Taxes are not "your money" anymore once you pay them. And people any distance down the income scale don't actually pay much in federal income taxes anyway. It's unlikely that they will ever pay much in capital gains taxes or anything at all in terms pf estate taxes. It's pretty much just your basic blue-collar payroll, excise, and state-and-local taxes that this group ever has to worry about.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:45 AM
 
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What's too bad is calling that "common sense." Proud as some may be of it, there is nothing actually sensible in living a rag-picker's life.
It's more sensible to live a debtor's life?
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:53 AM
 
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It's more sensible to live a debtor's life?
Surely you understand there's room between the two no?
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:04 AM
 
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It's more sensible to live a debtor's life?
Credit is at the core of every modern economy. What is more sensible is to abandon the silly myths and superstitions of centuries gone by and live in the real world as it actually exists today. In that world, debt is an important tool, easily surpassing in its utility such things as sliced bread and multivitamins.
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:09 AM
 
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Surely you understand there's room between the two no?
For some people, debt-excoriation is like some revival-tent religion. There tend to be no degrees of toleration in that case.
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