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Old 06-07-2017, 03:02 PM
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Police Dept highly recommends it as an anti crime measure. Particularly out here in the equestrian properties (no street lights) they push to light the properties up at night. We light the center island in our cul de sac as well.
Streets lights enable crime.

We lived in a county where if you wanted a streetlight you paid for it. Our neighborhood had no streetlights until the paranoid people from Seattle started moving in. Right away, they paid for a streetlight and parked their RV under it. It was broken into a 3:00 in the morning with two weeks.

Likewise, had a gang of kids breaking into cars. They were finally caught when they moved their operations from town with streetlights to an area without streetlights. Somebody woke up and saw that the flashlight caught their attention and called the police.

The best crime prevention light....is one connected to a motion detector. Everything stays dark and invisible until somebody steps on your property and they become fully illuminated.

Police are just people. Crime studies no effect or a slight negative effect (more crime) when streetlights are installed. There are also significant negative effects on human health from nighttime lights.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Streets lights enable crime.

We lived in a county where if you wanted a streetlight you paid for it. Our neighborhood had no streetlights until the paranoid people from Seattle started moving in. Right away, they paid for a streetlight and parked their RV under it. It was broken into a 3:00 in the morning with two weeks.

Likewise, had a gang of kids breaking into cars. They were finally caught when they moved their operations from town with streetlights to an area without streetlights. Somebody woke up and saw that the flashlight caught their attention and called the police.

The best crime prevention light....is one connected to a motion detector. Everything stays dark and invisible until somebody steps on your property and they become fully illuminated.

Police are just people. Crime studies no effect or a slight negative effect (more crime) when streetlights are installed. There are also significant negative effects on human health from nighttime lights.
We have no interest or intent to install street lights. Not an issue. The police however do like wall and porch lighting. I believe they think it makes it easier to spot prowlers. We do maintain some local lighting in the middle of the cul de sac but more to avoid a driving problem with dogs or kids as the view around the center island is limited. I am considering using motion detectors or cameras to light up the place on activation...we can light up like a carnival if it all is turned on at once. We have cans all around the house, floods up the trees and walkway lighting.
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Old 06-07-2017, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles area
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My electric bill runs about $20 a month unless we have a very hot spell in the summer and it can go up to $40 or more because of air-conditioning use. No type of light bulb inside my townhouse is going to make any sort of meaningful difference in the cost of my electricity.
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:10 PM
 
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We've only put 2 LEDs in our home. One in a hall that's stays on all night and one in our living room. We also own a restaurant and installed all LEDs there. We need to keep the lighting consistent and who wants bulbs burning out while customers are there. But we aren't home very much and we don't keep on extra lights, so LEDs won't be as beneficial for us.
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:57 AM
 
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I have never noticed a savings from light bulbs. My kitchen uses those old 4 foot tube lights, 2x2 and I don't see a significant cost in my electric bill.

What uses the most electricity in my home is my AC, 12 months in south Florida, then my fridge and water heater.
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