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Old 02-08-2018, 10:23 AM
 
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The cards are stacked against people. Like free education through high school. Now in NY college is free for families making under $125k and very low cost for those who do not qualify. There is welfare, food stamps, social services, Medicaid and basic services for those who really need it. You can only lead the horse to water. What more do you want society to do to help people prepare for better jobs and careers?
Its the middle class that are getting killed, not the poor.
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Old 02-08-2018, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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...which is why California is on the brink of government collapse from all the unfunded pension liability. In a race to default with Illinois. Not a race I'd be in any hurry to win. When the tech stock windfall tax revenue gravy train ends, it's going to get ugly.
oh geezus... CalPERS retiree health plans are not funded by the government, the amount the state charges for retiree health plans is exactly what they pay the provider, in the case of my plan that is $345 a month. Some agencies pay part or all of the retirees monthly premium but a large number of agencies don't contribute anything.
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:52 AM
 
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...which is why California is on the brink of government collapse from all the unfunded pension liability. In a race to default with Illinois. Not a race I'd be in any hurry to win. When the tech stock windfall tax revenue gravy train ends, it's going to get ugly.
A state with a $6 billion surplus is on the brink of collapse?

People have been saying this for the past 15 years now. I'm still waiting for it to happen.
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Old 02-09-2018, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Last I looked, one in four jobs in this country pays no more than $10 per hour.
Only 9.87% of the 163.5 Million full-time wage earners earn $10/hour or less.
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Old 02-09-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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Only 9.87% of the 163.5 Million full-time wage earners earn $10/hour or less.
And, most of those jobs should be filled by entry level, low skilled workers, not made into careers.
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:43 PM
 
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Only 9.87% of the 163.5 Million full-time wage earners earn $10/hour or less.

What about the part-time wage earners?
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:44 PM
 
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And, most of those jobs should be filled by entry level, low skilled workers, not made into careers.

Says who?
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:45 PM
 
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My daughter's childhood friend (26) is an IT headhunter in the Bay Area; her W-2 Box 1 is over $265K -- which is somewhat amusing because she can barely spell IT.

Is this a Great freaking country or what?
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:52 PM
 
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I attribute my economic outcome pretty much 100% to my parents. Maybe 80% environment and 20% genetic. From birth, I was programmed to succeed. I've made plenty of bad decisions along the way but I had the intellect, education, and decision making framework to overcome them. If you grow up being fed intellectual rocket fuel, you're probably going to do pretty well. If you're parked in front of a television and you're never taught the decision making framework to be successful, you're on that path to being the C student who gets the glorified certificate of attendance from the community college and the 3rd tier state school.

Personally, I think the issue is a system that allows parents to park their children in front of a television set or video game console. By the time they hit public school age, they're already tough to salvage. Accepting mediocrity is a bad thing. So my "grand pronouncement" is that we shouldn't tolerate lousy parenting.

Me too. My parents were druggies who left me in a playpen all day while they watched TV in their drug-induced stupor. I didn't talk until I was four and had zero social skills and was fed a diet of ketchup sandwiches because there was no real food to speak of.
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Old 02-11-2018, 03:49 AM
 
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And your point ? Is that the reason for your low income today ?
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