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Old 03-04-2019, 03:25 AM
 
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Did you read the conclusion of the first link? Here it is:

“So Secretary Reich is right in some broad sense. But the problem he identifies really isn’t with the Justice Department or antitrust as it is constituted now, but it’s the social biases in favor of the free market, a much freer market than we’ve known since the Great Depression, that are the real culprit.”

The second link, you do realize who Christopher Hayes is, right? Do I need to say more?
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Old 03-04-2019, 03:54 AM
 
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The beef one might have with Microsoft is that their two operating systems took intellectual property from the rightful developers, DR-DOS and DEC VAX/VMS. Microsoft turned them into MS-DOS and Windows NT and its lineage up to Windows 10. The company also tended to buy up competitors who made superior add-on products for Windows and incorporated them into the operating system to ward off competition. In the end, the market is moving toward devices using Android, IOS, and Windows, and it becomes less of a factor.
Err... Win NT has pretty much nothing in common with VMS. Digital Equipment Corporation and IBM contributed engineers to the OS/2 project. Microsoft poached Dave Cutler from DEC to lead the project to turn OS/2 v3.0 into Windows NT. There’s no VMS Intellectual property in NT. I was a VAX VMS guy. I wrote some WAN Miniport drivers for NT. There is nothing in common between VMS and NT other than they both had the same lead architect for part of their development. Dave Cutler didn’t architect OS/2 and that’s where NT came from.

Going back on-topic....

What happened to freemkt? He vanished 9 months ago.

The housing shortage where I live is largely a fallout of town control over public schools. Affluent towns fight high density and affordable housing to the death because the unwashed masses moving into town trashes the school system and spikes property taxes. Places where counties operate the schools don’t have as much of the zoning and “planning” restrictions to higher density and more affordable housing.

My frame of reference is Boston. The traffic jam is off the charts so people will pay an enormous premium to live close to work in a safe, affluent place. Since high density housing can’t happen politically in those places, the only solution is to improve public transportation so people can get to work from 50 miles away in a reasonable commute time.
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Old 03-04-2019, 12:20 PM
 
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Did you read the conclusion of the first link? Here it is:

“So Secretary Reich is right in some broad sense. But the problem he identifies really isn’t with the Justice Department or antitrust as it is constituted now, but it’s the social biases in favor of the free market, a much freer market than we’ve known since the Great Depression, that are the real culprit.”

The second link, you do realize who Christopher Hayes is, right? Do I need to say more?
I did read it, I think it’s sad and a sign of how ignorant the vast majority of Americans are.

The only alternative that has momentum is socialism, so be it.

If people bothered educating themselves they would realize they could improve their odds of getting a good job of big companies we’re all busted up into 30 smaller companies.

Regardless if you like it or not busting up a company will result in more GOOD jobs opening up becayse now these 30 new companies have to staff up.
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Old 03-04-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Only in your Bizzaro world would a jeweler, programmer and/or millionaire be comparable to a bank robber.
Don’t use blanket statements, I was only talking about the jeweler and programmer I knew.


And yes, in order to make millions upon millions of dollars, you have stolen from the fruits of others.
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Old 03-04-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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Err... Win NT has pretty much nothing in common with VMS. Digital Equipment Corporation and IBM contributed engineers to the OS/2 project. Microsoft poached Dave Cutler from DEC to lead the project to turn OS/2 v3.0 into Windows NT. There’s no VMS Intellectual property in NT. I was a VAX VMS guy. I wrote some WAN Miniport drivers for NT. There is nothing in common between VMS and NT other than they both had the same lead architect for part of their development. Dave Cutler didn’t architect OS/2 and that’s where NT came from.

Going back on-topic....

What happened to freemkt? He vanished 9 months ago.

The housing shortage where I live is largely a fallout of town control over public schools. Affluent towns fight high density and affordable housing to the death because the unwashed masses moving into town trashes the school system and spikes property taxes. Places where counties operate the schools don’t have as much of the zoning and “planning” restrictions to higher density and more affordable housing.

My frame of reference is Boston. The traffic jam is off the charts so people will pay an enormous premium to live close to work in a safe, affluent place. Since high density housing can’t happen politically in those places, the only solution is to improve public transportation so people can get to work from 50 miles away in a reasonable commute time.
I worked for DEC on several projects. I remember the news about Microsoft hiring away key members of the VMS team to start the work on WNT (letters intentionally 1+ VMS) in the 90's. They pretty much share the components of both OS/2 on which Microsoft had earlier worked on with IBM and of VMS.

https://www.itprotoday.com/compute-e...vms-rest-story
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Old 03-04-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Ruidoso, NM
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The only alternative that has momentum is socialism, so be it.
Maybe we should try democracy for a change?

Every developed country is capitalist and democratic with extensive laws, taxation, public benefits, etc to even out the income/wealth distribution and make it work. "Working" means social harmony and high aggregate prosperity (productivity) and living standards. Low corruption, high competition, and "fairness". From the early 30s to 70s was when our economy worked the best. Was that socialist?

For the last 40 years US policies have been designed to favor the mega-rich at everyone else's expense. Propaganda is so good that most people aren't even aware of it, and critical thinking is so poor that hardly anyone understands it.

For instance, this is horrendously misguided. Reducing productivity is a good way to get poor.

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Regardless if you like it or not busting up a company will result in more GOOD jobs opening up becayse now these 30 new companies have to staff up.
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Old 03-04-2019, 02:25 PM
 
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Don’t use blanket statements, I was only talking about the jeweler and programmer I knew.


And yes, in order to make millions upon millions of dollars, you have stolen from the fruits of others.
Hello, McFly. You are the one that continuously makes blanket statements. Look at this post in how you categorize people that have made millions.

By the way, you keep repeating how people have “stolen the fruits of others”. No one is buying it, so your just wasting your time repeating a failed argument.
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Old 03-04-2019, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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What happened to freemkt? He vanished 9 months ago.
Rumor has it he was able to sell his porn collection for a handsome profit, bought a place and rents out to 10 people in the same position he once was, and is now sipping tropical drinks in a hammock on the beach.
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Old 03-04-2019, 02:49 PM
 
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Maybe we should try democracy for a change?

Every developed country is capitalist and democratic with extensive laws, taxation, public benefits, etc to even out the income/wealth distribution and make it work. "Working" means social harmony and high aggregate prosperity (productivity) and living standards. Low corruption, high competition, and "fairness". From the early 30s to 70s was when our economy worked the best. Was that socialist?

For the last 40 years US policies have been designed to favor the mega-rich at everyone else's expense. Propaganda is so good that most people aren't even aware of it, and critical thinking is so poor that hardly anyone understands it.

For instance, this is horrendously misguided. Reducing productivity is a good way to get poor.
If you recommend punitive taxation for lack of hiring at good wages and lack of business expansion the rich sociopaths will kick and scream like spoiled children.

At the end of the day someone has to pay and poor people’s meager taxes are not going to cut it.
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Old 03-04-2019, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Maybe we should try democracy for a change?

Every developed country is capitalist and democratic with extensive laws, taxation, public benefits, etc to even out the income/wealth distribution and make it work. "Working" means social harmony and high aggregate prosperity (productivity) and living standards. Low corruption, high competition, and "fairness". From the early 30s to 70s was when our economy worked the best. Was that socialist?

For the last 40 years US policies have been designed to favor the mega-rich at everyone else's expense. Propaganda is so good that most people aren't even aware of it, and critical thinking is so poor that hardly anyone understands it.

For instance, this is horrendously misguided. Reducing productivity is a good way to get poor.
What are you talking about, socialism is about economic democracy.

Employees vote on management, people control resources, etc.

Please read, corporations are authoritarian bodies that run the country.
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