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Old 12-23-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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If you're a liberal, better than 80% are legitimately receiving welfare benefits. If you're conservative it's more like 20%.

Or pick your own number...
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Old 12-23-2017, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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If you believe in the existence of a commons, you probably accept that you are partially responsible for maintaining it.
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Old 12-25-2017, 08:57 AM
 
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:-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-:
:-:-: :CREATOR ENDOWED RIGHTS: :-:-:
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Creator endowed (individual) rights to life, liberty, ownership of private property, etc, do not imply, suggest or transition to taking life, liberty, or private property from innocent parties. Nor do they extend to compulsory charity (involuntary servitude) for the benefit of another. Nor do they embrace depredation and expropriation (theft) under threat, duress, coercion, nor fraud.

Government
• Cooperation in the mutual defense of property rights from predators is acceptable.
• Cooperation in the dispossession and destruction of innocent parties is unacceptable.
:-:-:
HOWEVER, if you consent to be governed, sit down, shut up, pay and obey.

If you're not sure, politely ask your public servants to explain how and when you surrendered your endowment and became a "privileged" person.
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Old 12-25-2017, 01:51 PM
 
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HINT: There IS no Creator. But Happy Holidays.
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Old 12-25-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Boston
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sounds like some people need a second job ....go get one
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Old 12-26-2017, 12:34 AM
 
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Our creator guy is talking about not being patriotic.
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Old 12-26-2017, 07:46 AM
 
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:-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-:
:-:-: :CREATOR ENDOWED RIGHTS: :-:-:
:-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-: :-:-:
Creator endowed (individual) rights to life, liberty, ownership of private property, etc, do not imply, suggest or transition to taking life, liberty, or private property from innocent parties. Nor do they extend to compulsory charity (involuntary servitude) for the benefit of another. Nor do they embrace depredation and expropriation (theft) under threat, duress, coercion, nor fraud.

Government
• Cooperation in the mutual defense of property rights from predators is acceptable.
• Cooperation in the dispossession and destruction of innocent parties is unacceptable.
:-:-:
HOWEVER, if you consent to be governed, sit down, shut up, pay and obey.

If you're not sure, politely ask your public servants to explain how and when you surrendered your endowment and became a "privileged" person.

Since when is ownership of private property a creator endowed right?

"Relying on government as the source of property rights seldom ends well for the landless."
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Old 12-26-2017, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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Since when is ownership of private property a creator endowed right?
Jefferson had indeed been pressured to include it in the Declaration of Independence, but he chose to reject it and went with "pursuit of happiness" instead. Keep in mind that the DOI was an entirely political document designed to curry sympathy and favor among the continental powers whose support and aid we would clearly need if the rebellion ever were to succeed.

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"Relying on government as the source of property rights seldom ends well for the landless."
Nevertheless, all property rights actually are created, controlled, and as necessary defended by the state. It's pointless to look anywhere else.
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Old 12-26-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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Since when is ownership of private property a creator endowed right?
If you do not absolutely own your self, your labor, the fruits of that labor, the land that you acquired, etc, etc , WHO DOES?
And how did THEY acquire that power?

BTW, private property was considered an endowed right from day one.
" PERSONAL LIBERTY, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or Natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most SACRED and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable."
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum, Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987

NATURAL RIGHTS - ... are the rights of life, liberty, privacy, and good reputation.
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Ed., p. 1324

PRIVATE PROPERTY - "As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels."
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217

OWNERSHIP - “ ... Ownership of property is either absolute or qualified. The ownership of property is absolute when a single person has the absolute dominion over it... The ownership is qualified when it is shared with one or more persons, when the time of enjoyment is deferred or limited, or when the use is restricted. "
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p. 1106
Lands, houses, and chattels absolutely owned by an individual is private property, a sacred right. And only private property is constitutionally protected.
That which is held with qualified ownership (estate) is not a right, but a revenue taxable privilege.

If government can take your property and not pay just compensation, it's not private property.

From the Communist manifesto: "In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."
https://www.marxists.org/archive/mar...ist-manifesto/

Before 1933, private property ownership was a “Sacred right,” that predated the formation of constitutional government. And was explicitly protected in all constitutions, federal and state.

After 1933, it was abolished, in compliance with the Communist Manifesto.
That's because Americans embraced the notion it was a "good thing" for government to TAKE from one to GIVE to another.

Welcome to the PDSRA!
People's Democratic Socialist Republic of America, slowly transforming America since 1933.
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Old 12-26-2017, 06:39 PM
 
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^^ Excuses for not liking your own country.
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