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So seems our taxes are going to go up for the middle class and down for the rich.. So with that said, lets fix the welfare system. Here is my thoughts on what to do.
Work 20 hour week min job at any location. Get on some program to prevent further births of unattended accidents. Random drug and drink tests. Max you can stay on the welfare system and housing is 2 years. By then you should be able to gain enough experience in the work force to get full time and better housing.
So any ideas on what to do next? Think if you slap some pretty good restrictions on these programs, it will help our economics in jobs.?
make it a combo income match + income insurance system with a minimum of 20 hours worked to stay in the system
they work 20 hours but make $700, the welfare will give them $1300 to get them to $2,000/month (not sure what it is now but it seems like an even number)
they change jobs and work 30 hours and make $1,500, then they get $500 welfare dollars.
maybe they want to stay at 30 hours instead of 40 hours and get $0 welfare dollars because they would still be "netting" $2,000/month. But, some allowances for "abuse" needs to be built in since it'll happen.
at $2,000 or whatever income, they would "make" enough to not get as much food/housing subsidies
So seems our taxes are going to go up for the middle class and down for the rich.. So with that said, lets fix the welfare system. Here is my thoughts on what to do.
Work 20 hour week min job at any location. Get on some program to prevent further births of unattended accidents. Random drug and drink tests. Max you can stay on the welfare system and housing is 2 years. By then you should be able to gain enough experience in the work force to get full time and better housing.
So any ideas on what to do next? Think if you slap some pretty good restrictions on these programs, it will help our economics in jobs.?
Although you are going to be wrong about the tax plan. I do agree with your work requirement for welfare and also a 2 year maximum usage. The biggest drag on the welfare system are the slackers using it as a career and then passing that career down to their kids.
So seems our taxes are going to go up for the middle class and down for the rich.. So with that said, lets fix the welfare system. Here is my thoughts on what to do.
Work 20 hour week min job at any location. Get on some program to prevent further births of unattended accidents. Random drug and drink tests. Max you can stay on the welfare system and housing is 2 years. By then you should be able to gain enough experience in the work force to get full time and better housing.
So any ideas on what to do next? Think if you slap some pretty good restrictions on these programs, it will help our economics in jobs.?
Sounds like you have listened to political statements on the new tax plan. More likely taxes are going to go down for almost everyone including some reductions for those who currently pay the most.
Now as to your fixes?
What about people who cannot find a job or are unable to work or need to care for children? Many cannot work 20 hours per week or in fact any hours. I assume you mean you want a program to prevent "unintended" pregnancies and births. There are programs or at least there have been. Now the religious right wingers are destroying them.
Random drug and drink tests. People on welfare are not allowed to drink? Why not just drug test everyone on a random basis? That will help with the war on drugs that has failed for decades and has consumed lots of law enforcement efforts. Substance abuse is considered a medical condition. Do you want to pick some additional medical conditions that would stop someone from getting welfare? Maybe diabetes and obesity. There are lots of people with diabetes or obesity. That would reduce costs.
So you want to end the welfare after 2 years. Just throw the families out onto the streets or just shoot them?
Sounds like you have listened to political statements on the new tax plan. More likely taxes are going to go down for almost everyone including some reductions for those who currently pay the most.
Now as to your fixes?
What about people who cannot find a job or are unable to work or need to care for children? Many cannot work 20 hours per week or in fact any hours. I assume you mean you want a program to prevent "unintended" pregnancies and births. There are programs or at least there have been. Now the religious right wingers are destroying them.
Random drug and drink tests. People on welfare are not allowed to drink? Why not just drug test everyone on a random basis? That will help with the war on drugs that has failed for decades and has consumed lots of law enforcement efforts. Substance abuse is considered a medical condition. Do you want to pick some additional medical conditions that would stop someone from getting welfare? Maybe diabetes and obesity. There are lots of people with diabetes or obesity. That would reduce costs.
So you want to end the welfare after 2 years. Just throw the families out onto the streets or just shoot them?
I am pretty sure they can find work.. rather its flipping burgers to wiping butts in a nursing home. Summer time yards that needs to be mowed, ditches that can be dug up.. their are jobs, its not what they want, but it is a job. Vs just selling dope at the corner as you see at every HUD housing projects. You find that most people in these projects have kids with out fathers and or mothers and have many of them. Stop having more kids that we have to keep feeding while you sit your butt. Make a limit on how many can claim, something to keep them from having more kids just to milk the system. If you got money to buy weed or a 40oz. then you got some money to buy dipers.. its a choice.. get high or get some food for the kids.. priorities vs wants. Shut down the program after x amount of time if they can not show proof they are trying to get a job, and they do have vouchers for daycare workers program. Just matter of finding that daycare and the fatherless child mother to get out their and do something for the family. System was put in place to help them get by untill they can find work, like unemployment.. but wasnt designed to be a family tradition to milk it.
There is a ton of uninformed rhetoric in this thread. Bill Clinton 'reformed' welfare in 1996. He put the "T" in Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. 5 year lifetime cap on cash assistance. The law also changed so if you're on public assistance, you don't get more cash for popping out another kid. Poor people have to work.
There is a ton of uninformed rhetoric in this thread. Bill Clinton 'reformed' welfare in 1996. He put the "T" in Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. 5 year lifetime cap on cash assistance. The law also changed so if you're on public assistance, you don't get more cash for popping out another kid. Poor people have to work.
Think they found a loop because their are folks that been on it far longer than 5 years. I know when he made that reformed it tick off lot of people that were stuck in the system..
Think they found a loop because their are folks that been on it far longer than 5 years. I know when he made that reformed it tick off lot of people that were stuck in the system..
I think the loophole is they file for disability.
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