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I had an employer once that asked me to sign a no compete. Basically stating if I quit, I can't solicit any of my clients when I go work for someone else. If I did they could sue me for lost commissions, breach of contract, etc. I was told if I did not sign it then I couldn't work for them. I refused to sign it and I walked.
Your option, of course. Not uncommon in industries where someone can learn (or steal) a boatload of proprietary information like client lists, discount and sale rates or manufacturing techniques, or spend a long time becoming trained at a job. The employer wants to ensure fair return for investment, and minimal damage from info walking out the door. Slavery continuing to be illegal, NC clauses give both parties an option.
The OP's issue appears to be between companies, for which there can be many reasons.
Your option, of course. Not uncommon in industries where someone can learn (or steal) a boatload of proprietary information like client lists, discount and sale rates or manufacturing techniques, or spend a long time becoming trained at a job. The employer wants to ensure fair return for investment, and minimal damage from info walking out the door. Slavery continuing to be illegal, NC clauses give both parties an option.
The OP's issue appears to be between companies, for which there can be many reasons.
I can understand if you work for companies like Amazon.. but for what i do, its just typical NOC stuff that is basic at any company level. But being invested vs learning a new skill set that I cant use for x amount of time is kinda stupid dont ya think?
I can understand if you work for companies like Amazon.. but for what i do, its just typical NOC stuff that is basic at any company level. But being invested vs learning a new skill set that I cant use for x amount of time is kinda stupid dont ya think?
Do you have a no-compete clause in your employment agreement? I thought you were talking about your company's advertising limitations.
No, there's little or no reason to NC commodity workers (which most are - no insult). It's only those who get extensive specialized training on the employer's dime or have access to potentially damaging information that are NC'ed. Typically.
Note utterly conventional use of "get" without implication anything here was free.
Do you have a no-compete clause in your employment agreement? I thought you were talking about your company's advertising limitations.
No, there's little or no reason to NC commodity workers (which most are - no insult). It's only those who get extensive specialized training on the employer's dime or have access to potentially damaging information that are NC'ed. Typically.
Note utterly conventional use of "get" without implication anything here was free.
I do and had to read it twice to understand the language in it. But i can opt-out later on after 2 years of service with the company. I just dont understand why they need one for my job but it is what it is.. and stupid, from a employee point of view.
Just open generally why have them from the start anyways? rather its BvB or BvE..
I do and had to read it twice to understand the language in it. But i can opt-out later on after 2 years of service with the company. I just dont understand why they need one for my job but it is what it is.. and stupid, from a employee point of view.
Just open generally why have them from the start anyways? rather its BvB or BvE..
Sorry it impinges on your notion of utterly free markets, or whatever. I don't think anyone can make the issue any simpler.
No, there's little or no reason to NC commodity workers (which most are - no insult). It's only those who get extensive specialized training on the employer's dime or have access to potentially damaging information that are NC'ed. Typically.
That seems to have changed lately. Clerks, even waitstaff have had NC clauses added to their contracts. It gives the employer an extra edge, after all.
That seems to have changed lately. Clerks, even waitstaff have had NC clauses added to their contracts. It gives the employer an extra edge, after all.
Interesting. Another datum supporting the observation that wage employees are not benefiting from the long economic boom, but that employers as a whole are using 2008 as a reason to keep squeezing pay, benefits and working terms.
So it's sure a good thing we slashed their taxes, right? They've pretty much exhausted all the profit potential from sitting on employee costs.
I can understand if you work for companies like Amazon.. but for what i do, its just typical NOC stuff that is basic at any company level. But being invested vs learning a new skill set that I cant use for x amount of time is kinda stupid dont ya think?
What the company is saying, is that you will not take a skill you learn at their facility at their expense, and leave them to use that same skill to help a competitor to help the new company move ahead of the original company. This type of non compete clause, is wide spread among employers.
You may think it is alright for you to let your old employer train you and you gain a new skill, that you can take to a competitor and sell your services at a higher income rate. But companies don't feel that way.
It involves a lot more than just a skill. Imagine your employer develops a new product, at a cost of $3,000,000. You are one of the developers, and it is a product they will bring on the market in 6 months. The product will be a huge seller, and be very profitable for the company. Without the non compete clause, you can quit and go to work with the other company and use your knowledge of the new product, you can help the new company come out in 3 months with the same type product, at no cost to develop the product they are going to bring out. The new employer, dominates the market without the expense to develop the market to the extent your original employer does not even bring it out on the market.
From your statement above, you think you should be able to go to work for your present employer just long enough to learn a skill, you can take to the new employer to earn more money.
And that is the attitude of the young work force today, which is get a job and learn a skill they can sell for a higher income at another job. You see them advocating this on these threads.
Then they complain, that companies no longer want to train people just starting out, and only want to hire people with 5 or more years experience.
It is because they are tired of spending time and money training new workers who will leave as soon as they learn the skill, and sell that knowledge to another employer for more money.
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