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Old 06-25-2018, 07:11 AM
 
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Honestly, who would want to bring up children in this Country today? Chances of getting shot at school outweigh most other civilized nations by about 25:1. Let alone the cost and other factors associated with having children these days. We made a decision 35 years ago not to have kids purely based on what we saw "some" other people's children were turning into. The way they treated their parents (Verbally) and the lack of appreciation they gave them.

Add what this country is turning/has turned into, and what the powers that be are teaching them, just fortifies our decision.
No worries, the children you could have raised are being supplemented 7 to 1 by immigrant births.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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Declining birth rates in the most developed nations is good news for the planets ecosystem, bad news for the most developed nations.
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Old 06-25-2018, 11:17 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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The birth rate needs to fall. We're overpopulated.
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Old 06-25-2018, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Southern Colorado
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The birth rate needs to fall. We're overpopulated.

Over burdened planet really is a huge problem. At the moment, I can think of no realistic solutions that would not be called monstrous. It is possible that something big may happen in the foreseeable future of course.
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Old 06-25-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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Pretty good article about the challenges facing young couples. I find the comment by Paul Ryan at the end to be the equivalent of "Let them eat cake". Completely tone deaf and total lack of awareness of the challenges faced by working families.



https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...amily-policies
Everyone who is within a few years of receiving social security should be interested in the challenges facing young adults and young families. This is the group that will pay taxes to see that we receive benefits. I think we need to take their problems much more seriously than we do. I'd like to see what we could do to make their lives more tolerable. We are creating a country in which the message many young people are getting is that we "don't need them". Its wrong both on moral and practical grounds.
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Old 06-25-2018, 01:25 PM
 
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Look, leave us call all this hand wringing for what it is; concerns by whites of European descent (on both sides of Atlantic) about becoming "minorities" in their own countries.


People like Pat Buchanan, Marie Le Pen and others at least are upfront about things.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/o...pgtype=Article
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Old 06-25-2018, 01:50 PM
 
Location: moved
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A distinction must be made, between Western values, and Western ethnicity. If in succeeding generations, global demographics come to revert to what they were 500 years ago - where white Europeans were a very small minority of the overall human population - I struggle to assign a normative judgment to this. It's neither good nor bad, but simply a statistic. If however Western cultures, Western values, Western humanism and the Western intellectual tradition founder and fail, then we indeed have an impending tragedy.

If Shakespeare, Dante, Goethe or Pushkin are in 100 years forgotten, that would be a harrowing loss. If they remain read, but read by people who are predominantly brown, or have flat noses, or thick lips - so what?
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Old 06-25-2018, 04:42 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Over burdened planet really is a huge problem. At the moment, I can think of no realistic solutions that would not be called monstrous. It is possible that something big may happen in the foreseeable future of course.
Birth control isn't a monstrous method of lowering the population. Maybe incentives like tax breaks for not having kids.
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Old 06-25-2018, 05:22 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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Birth control isn't a monstrous method of lowering the population.
Maybe incentives like tax breaks for not having kids.
Both. Reward delaying the first birth. Reward limiting births altogether.
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Old 06-25-2018, 05:26 PM
 
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Birth control isn't a monstrous method of lowering the population. Maybe incentives like tax breaks for not having kids.
It's kind of funny to think that on the contrary, most developed countries are bending over backwards, offering incentives to people to have kids.

So your suggestion is that people who have kids, and all the associated expenses, will no longer get a tax break. People who don't have them, and so by the nature of things have fewer expenses to begin with, will get a tax break and have even more disposable income. I don't see that going over very well.
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