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Old 08-16-2018, 04:33 AM
 
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how can anyone with a sound mind think the US economy is doing "great"? I have never seen so many crummy jobs paying $10 or $12 an hour. many don't even pay $9/hourly. the wages adjusted for inflation are probably slightly less than they were 20 years ago. america is a declining economy and it's getting worse. we're not going to believe this propaganda coming from Mr. Trump and the US media. i've never believed it. nothing but lies! people are defaulting on student loans and living in cars and i'm sure it hasn't slowed down lately. does that sound like a "boom" to you?
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:38 AM
 
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Got any credible metrics to back up your propaganda?
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:41 AM
 
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how can anyone with a sound mind think the US economy is doing "great"? I have never seen so many crummy jobs paying $10 or $12 an hour. many don't even pay $9/hourly. the wages adjusted for inflation are probably slightly less than they were 20 years ago. america is a declining economy and it's getting worse. we're not going to believe this propaganda coming from Mr. Trump and the US media. i've never believed it. nothing but lies! people are defaulting on student loans and living in cars and i'm sure it hasn't slowed down lately. does that sound like a "boom" to you?
those crummy jobs are only worth 10-12 an hour . markets value what jobs are worth .

the things others can't or won't do for themselves is always where the money is . crappy jobs and low skill jobs will always be low paying
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:48 AM
 
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House values, stock market, company profits are all up. Real wages are flat and that’s the problem everyone points to, no wage growth. There have been and always will be low paying jobs. Those jobs were not meant to be an ending place, but a starting place. We’ve all had low paying jobs. Some of us get training and education and move up. Some don’t. Always been, always will be. It’s not a new problem.
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Im doing great.
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:00 AM
 
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House values, stock market, company profits are all up. Real wages are flat and that’s the problem everyone points to, no wage growth. There have been and always will be low paying jobs. Those jobs were not meant to be an ending place, but a starting place. We’ve all had low paying jobs. Some of us get training and education and move up. Some don’t. Always been, always will be. It’s not a new problem.
most of us don't stay in the same job slot for our entire lives . we move up the ladder earning more pay doing more meaningful and higher level jobs not because wages paid to a fork lift driver are going up because they do that for 40 years . my wages certainly were not flat over my 40 years of working .
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:05 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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House values, stock market, company profits are all up. Real wages are flat and that’s the problem everyone points to, no wage growth. There have been and always will be low paying jobs. Those jobs were not meant to be an ending place, but a starting place. We’ve all had low paying jobs. Some of us get training and education and move up. Some don’t. Always been, always will be. It’s not a new problem.
Yes, and here in our city of 60,000 the median family income is over $160,000, so a lot of people are doing just fine. Homes are still selling in a few days for $800,000-1.5 million. Fast food and retail are paying $15/hour. I have had annual raises of 3.5-4.5% for the last 9 years, which isn't much, but also two promotions in that time that made up for inflation and then some. Unfortunately some people have been left behind, but overall, at least around here, the economy is booming.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:09 AM
 
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The solution is to move to Seattle, oh ✋. Everyone is already doing that or planning to.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:43 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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It's booming for the upper class (top quintile).
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:51 AM
 
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Nobody is forced to work a those rates. Its all about negotiation. Convince an employer you are worth what you want and your problem is solved.
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