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Old 02-06-2019, 03:09 PM
 
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(sigh)...


If the government no longer protects that right
Sooo.... getting rid of private property rights?

 
Old 02-06-2019, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Sooo.... getting rid of private property rights?
The government decides what your rights are.

That is what the bill of rights is for. It is not a natural right though.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 03:17 PM
 
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The government decides what your rights are.

That is what the bill of rights is for. It is not a natural right though.
lol ok, so the whole "We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

... means nothing?
 
Old 02-06-2019, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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lol ok, so the whole "We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

... means nothing?
Must we go back to the Benjamin Franklin note.

Property as conceived by modern day capitalism needs not be enforced as it is not an unalienable right. That is separate and would not oppose the bill of rights.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 03:35 PM
 
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Must we go back to the Benjamin Franklin note.

Property as conceived by modern day capitalism needs not be enforced as it is not an unalienable right. That is separate and would not oppose the bill of rights.
pursuit of happiness ring a bell?
 
Old 02-06-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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Must we go back to the Benjamin Franklin note.

Property as conceived by modern day capitalism needs not be enforced as it is not an unalienable right. That is separate and would not oppose the bill of rights.
Neither would owning a huge farm with numerous stables.

You're just trying to define property to fit your vision.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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pursuit of happiness ring a bell?
The movie about getting out of poverty with will Smith? I never liked it that much...

Oh, you mean life, liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Yes these are all things me and Franklin support unlike the modern day capitalist who only care about wages and corporate investment.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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Neither would owning a huge farm with numerous stables.

You're just trying to define property to fit your vision.
If you were alone sure. If you work with others, then you should share ownership of that farm to instinctivize exploitation for capital.

Lincoln: "labor precedes capital". Why do all the American heroes agree with me and hate your philosophy of corporate control?
 
Old 02-06-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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If you were alone sure. If you work with others, then you should share ownership of that farm to instinctivize exploitation for capital.

Lincoln: "labor precedes capital". Why do all the American heroes agree with me and hate your philosophy of corporate control?
I am not a corporation. I am a wealthy individual who owns multiple homes.
 
Old 02-06-2019, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I am not a corporation. I am a wealthy individual who owns multiple homes.
Such a philosophy leads to corporate entities.

When you privileged yourself with the right to rent and control labor, and access to land, you are in support of corporate power.

There was a reason Jefferson was against credit loans, Madison was against rent income, Franklin was against excess property control, and Lincoln was against private capital controlling the mills laborers worked at.

All these great Americans stand against you. How does that make you feel?
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