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Old 01-28-2019, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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There is a nice McLaren 720S Spider that I like. I will just go down and take it for a “test drive”. Since I will be in the drivers seat, I will then control the car, which means I will now own it.

Thanks for the free car!
Ok, this is how it works. Someone can sell you their car and you can buy it.

A workers cooperative can manufacture cars within a syndicate and sell them to you based on the labor value theory.

But if a car is finished and without an owner, you can have it.

Let me phrase it like this. Control continues pass presence. I could leave my car in a parking lot but it will still be mine when I get back as it is under my usage regardless.

What you cannot do is own property that you are NOT in control of.

 
Old 01-28-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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Ok, this is how it works. Someone can sell you their car and you can buy it.

A workers cooperative can manufacture cars within a syndicate and sell them to you based on the labor value theory.

But if a car is finished and without an owner, you can have it.
Great! The car is finished and there is no owner since no one else has bought it yet.
 
Old 01-28-2019, 07:53 AM
 
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Dominance is the tool of the weak. And there are laws against aggression.
That's how the US was built. Nothing is going to change. It's just that the weapons are autonomous now because instead of being politically active in things that actually matter, people are worried about dumb **** that is ultimately insignificant, so they did nothing to stop this.

Now, all it takes is a coward to kill a man. Plenty of those in the US.
 
Old 01-28-2019, 07:54 AM
 
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Can you do that now?

No, and the same applies in any other time. People respect the living space of others. Besides it is that which exceeds presence.
Thanks for the rule change. Since I consider my house in the north to be my living space in the summer, my house in the south to be my living space in the winter and my ski villa to be my living space on vacations, I now have my three properties in the Winterfall World. The only part I messed up is paying for them. I could have just waited for them to be vacant and then could have moved in for free.
 
Old 01-28-2019, 08:52 AM
 
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Thanks for the rule change. Since I consider my house in the north to be my living space in the summer, my house in the south to be my living space in the winter and my ski villa to be my living space on vacations, I now have my three properties in the Winterfall World. The only part I messed up is paying for them. I could have just waited for them to be vacant and then could have moved in for free.
Right? Man this thread is bonkers!
 
Old 01-28-2019, 09:00 AM
 
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Thanks for the rule change. Since I consider my house in the north to be my living space in the summer, my house in the south to be my living space in the winter and my ski villa to be my living space on vacations, I now have my three properties in the Winterfall World. The only part I messed up is paying for them. I could have just waited for them to be vacant and then could have moved in for free.
You can only live in one house at a time. The concept of freedom is very foriegn to you.
 
Old 01-28-2019, 09:07 AM
 
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You can only live in one house at a time. The concept of freedom is very foriegn to you.
Thanks for redefining restriction as freedom.
 
Old 01-28-2019, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Great! The car is finished and there is no owner since no one else has bought it yet.
Is it stored away?

Personal property is something that is controlled by someone. That means it is in a state of usage or storage. If I keep a car in my garage that I don't use, it's still mine as I have maintenance over that space.

If a cooperative can store cars to sell, then that will be how the market is presented. The only differences is the supply will be naturally limited as the storage space must be confined ad controlled. In other words a cooperative can store product in other facilities they don't operate.
 
Old 01-28-2019, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Thanks for redefining restriction as freedom.
Do you think a king represents freedom?

When people restrict his power, they bring more freedom. In the same way private owners are all limited to their ability to store, produce, and maintain.

Any excess power leads to unchecked authority over others.
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