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Old 07-26-2019, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Originally Posted by ALackOfCreativity View Post
I've always seen it as:

rich = enough assets to maintain a middle class lifestyle out of passive income
upper-middle = high income, not rich
middle = moderate income, not rich


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This is accurate IMO.
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Old 07-26-2019, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Income does not determine class status, net worth does. I know people who make considerably less money yet have higher net worths than some others with much higher incomes.

If you make $120K but are heavily in debt with a big mortgage, too big car payments and high credit card and/or student loan debts, and have a negative net worth, what does it matter what your income is?
What does net worth mean?

I've heard it doesn't include your home that you own, your IRA, investments or any other assets, just cash available that you have. I really don't know.
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Umm no haha only a poor person would consider just cash in the bank. That would ignore the vast majority of most wealthy peoples’ net worths. I’m fine not including your house if it makes someone feel better but it IS part of your net worth. There’s no actual argument about the definition of net worth. It’s assets minus liabilities. Everything you own is counted no matter what it is. Anyone who invests in real estate has tons of non-liquid assets but they still absolutely count. If someone asks, “How much money do you have that you could invest right now in my new business?” That’s a different question. Then they're just asking about liquid available funds, which most people with money wouldn’t keep much of.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Outside US
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It depends on the area but in the Chicago area probably $45k or so for a single person with no kids.
That's lower working class.
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Old 08-01-2019, 07:48 AM
 
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That's lower working class.
Not according to Pew, and several other reliable statistical sources. It’s on the lower end for middle class HH income in Chicago though.

https://www.businessinsider.com/midd...ancisco-2018-2
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Old 08-02-2019, 04:28 AM
 
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Not according to Pew, and several other reliable statistical sources. It’s on the lower end for middle class HH income in Chicago though.

https://www.businessinsider.com/midd...ancisco-2018-2
if these numbers are not buying a "middle class lifestyle " for us where each of us live, they mean nothing .....middle class income and middle class lifestyle don't mean the same thing .
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Old 08-02-2019, 07:33 AM
 
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if these numbers are not buying a "middle class lifestyle " for us where each of us live, they mean nothing .....middle class income and middle class lifestyle don't mean the same thing .
I agree with your comment.

OTOH, the person I replied to did not add the required nuance to his comment.
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Old 08-03-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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$1 more than I make.
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:49 AM
 
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What does net worth mean?

I've heard it doesn't include your home that you own, your IRA, investments or any other assets, just cash available that you have. I really don't know.
LOL! No, that would be how "liquid" you are. Net worth is the difference between assets and liabilities.

"An individual's net worth is simply the value that is left after subtracting liabilities from assets. Examples of liabilities (debt) include mortgages, credit card balances, student loans, car loans, etc. An individual's assets include checking and savings account balances, value of securities such as stocks or bonds, home value, market value of an automobile, etc. In other words, whatever is left after selling all assets and paying off personal debt is the net worth. Note that the value of personal net worth includes the current market value of assets and the current debt costs."

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/networth.asp



https://www.moneycrashers.com/calcul...nal-net-worth/

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Old 08-04-2019, 12:32 PM
 
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What does net worth mean?

I've heard it doesn't include your home that you own, your IRA, investments or any other assets, just cash available that you have. I really don't know.
Net worth is assets minus liabilities.
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