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No it is not, otherwise wages would be rising across the board.
We should wait until wages are equivalent to 1970 pay adjusted for inflation before we bring in more people.
I know a painter and drywaller that said they made about 20 bucks an hour in 1970.
Now some only get paid 12 bucks an hour.
They should be making 30 bucks an hour so we have a long ways to go.
According to this BLS data, it actually hovered around $6/hr in 1970.
No it is not, otherwise wages would be rising across the board.
We should wait until wages are equivalent to 1970 pay adjusted for inflation before we bring in more people.
I know a painter and drywaller that said they made about 20 bucks an hour in 1970.
Now some only get paid 12 bucks an hour.
They should be making 30 bucks an hour so we have a long ways to go.
I wouldn't put too much faith in those memories, unless maybe they were making Sunday OT in McCormick Place or something. The Chicago District Council journeyman carpenter hourly rate in 1977 was about $10.50 per hour (I might even still have a pay stub if I look for it). In 1970? I'd have to guess and say about seven bucks an hour, it was a bit before my time - but I might be able to find one of my old man's, that guy kept everything. Tradesman only making twelve bucks an hour today are either fresh across the border, or aren't very good at what they do, at least in Chicago. Why, janitorial wages start at about nine bucks in this market, I see Mickey D's and White Castle advertising for ten. I'd think that decently skilled tradesmen make at least twenty or twenty-five bucks an hour in the Chicago area, and the union journeyman carpenter rate is probably more like forty-five or fifty. That's why guys want to be in the union.
Ah yes, here comes the shaming language to shut down debate...
No. This is strictly a discussion around economics and the need for more immigrants to sustain our economy. If you want to make the case that you need to preserve white america, go do that in another thread.
No it is not, otherwise wages would be rising across the board.
Seriously?
You can't entertain the possibility that your assumptions on the relationship between wages and unemployment are wrong, instead it's some massive conspiracy spanning multiple administrations to report fraudulent unemployment numbers.
Chasing conclusions is not a wise way to view and learn about the world around you.
I wouldn't put too much faith in those memories, unless maybe they were making Sunday OT in McCormick Place or something. The Chicago District Council journeyman carpenter hourly rate in 1977 was about $10.50 per hour (I might even still have a pay stub if I look for it). In 1970? I'd have to guess and say about seven bucks an hour, it was a bit before my time - but I might be able to find one of my old man's, that guy kept everything. Tradesman only making twelve bucks an hour today are either fresh across the border, or aren't very good at what they do, at least in Chicago. Why, janitorial wages start at about nine bucks in this market, I see Mickey D's and White Castle advertising for ten. I'd think that decently skilled tradesmen make at least twenty or twenty-five bucks an hour in the Chicago area, and the union journeyman carpenter rate is probably more like forty-five or fifty. That's why guys want to be in the union.
Such is the nature of anecdotal evidence, especially when dulled by a clear bias and second (3rd?) hand observations from many decades ago.
Let's also give a nod to folks who insist the rate of inflation is actually 20% since their package of Hormel bacon is 20% higher than it was a year ago.
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