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Old 12-25-2019, 09:14 AM
 
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Can you read? The rent you quoted is from Frankfurt Oder, not Frankfurt (the major city). Frankfurt Oder is a small town near the boarder with Poland. Look further down the article you linked to and you will sent the rent for Frankfurt (the major city).
The big one is Frankfurt Main, where rents are likely higher than they are in Stuttgart.
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Old 12-25-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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The same concept applies to any human. When did you give more when you received more? It ralrely happens, but humans are idiots and believe anything they hear.
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Old 12-25-2019, 02:20 PM
 
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No one is asking for free work. Instead, if you make a claim, be prepared to back it up. Instead, you just see, to make it up as you go. Tell us again about those $30 cheeseburgers in Germany and Switzerland.
I do back it up I just dont do exhaustive research at someones demand. The only time additional data is warrented is if there is a political will to make changes on said data.

The issue today is that no matter what the data said people like you are not backing down. You want your rights to dirty strip malls, low wage jobs and enviornmental destruction so long as YOU are turning a healthy profit.

As long as your turning a profit you dont really care so why dig up the data?

All the indicators are showing the opposite of what you are claiming because:
1. if things were as great as you say they are I would have had 5-10 6 figure job offers in my inbox when I was unemployed with full move packages. After all if employers are hard up for people the pot would get sweeter ... no?
2. We would not see exponential growth (or close to exponential growth) of homelessness and near homelessness
3. I would not have seen pages and pages of low wage mcjob postings all over the country (or super-specialized niche skill jobs) when I was on linkedin jobs, indeed, etc. When things are supposedly booming you should not have to delve into the secret handshake job market in cigar smoke-filled rooms for one singular offer ... no?
4. And I did do the DOL search and 60% of people in the USA are making 20$/hr or less, seeing as how most people live in high cost of living areas (since I saw almost no people in rural midwest when I traveled for job interviews). $20/hr is not good money anywhere other than maybe the middle of nowhere iowa ... maybe, even then its just ok money, its not im going to buy land, put up a building and start manufacturing something without a loan kind of money.

Do you see how your narrative falls apart ... of course not because you're turning a profit and you don't care, your goal is disinformation to keep people voting against their own best interests.

The goal of the crony capitaliist is to keep their cash flow going even if it means intellecutal dishonesty or comitting white collar crimes.

Do situations arise where some employer like GE needs some SUPER niche skills set like turbine techs or rotating equipment engineers, sure, but they dont support these people gradation to retirement so specializing in these things is a massive career risk unless you are part owner in a buisness and cant be fired or laid off. Lay offs are devestating to people who specialize and companies are proving they are willing to let you go at the drop of a hat, of course thats not a problem until it starts causing the crony capitalist cash flow problems because so few people are doing it anymore.
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Old 12-25-2019, 03:40 PM
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The poor does not pay federal taxes; of course they don't benefit.

Oh and the tax cuts while not a complete antidote, aren't the real problem. Federal Reserve not cutting interest rates, gov't spending are.
The poor doesn't pay crap, that is true, so they don't gain or lose. They just complain because they want to work very little and make the same as super talented people that work hard.

Government spending is out of control and has been since Eisenhower that built real infrastructure.
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Old 12-25-2019, 03:45 PM
 
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You didn’t even read the link by 2sleepy to catch his/her error.
There was no error, the article was specific in saying that the 250 euro apartment is in an older section of Frankfurt. But you want to seize on that rather than admitting that the US sucks for low wage workers, compare the highest rent of all the German cities shown at 1,094.30€ that would be an annual rent of 13,131.6 € A fast food employee working 40 hours a week @ 10 € per hour would gross 20,800 € per year. Compare that to Miami where the average salary of a fast food worker is $8.50 an hour or $16,320 a year and the average rent for a 1 bedroom apartment is $1,995 or $23,940 per year. My guess is that you could do this math for every European Country and rent would always be more affordable to a low wage worker than it is in the US. But you apparently have decided not to admit the obvious and instead quarrel about the rent in Frankfurt.
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Old 12-25-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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The poor doesn't pay crap, that is true, so they don't gain or lose. They just complain because they want to work very little and make the same as super talented people that work hard.
Government spending is out of control and has been since Eisenhower that built real infrastructure.
The poor probably work harder than your "super talented people" and for the most part they do so without complaining.
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Old 12-25-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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The big one is Frankfurt Main, where rents are likely higher than they are in Stuttgart.
Frankfurt "main" as you call it: average monthly rent 868.91€

https://www.studying-in-germany.org/...ent-in-germany
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Old 12-25-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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The poor doesn't pay crap, that is true, so they don't gain or lose. They just complain because they want to work very little and make the same as super talented people that work hard.

Government spending is out of control and has been since Eisenhower that built real infrastructure.
You see this is the crux of the issue and the million dollar question.

Do you believe that 60% of working americans fall into the "work very little and are incredibly untallented" catagory. That is the fundamental question that must be true in order for the wage data to make sense and to be valid.

Anything outside of this means that 45% of americans being fleeced and are justified in voting in socialism (and the 10-15% of the truely useless will join them in that vote).
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Old 12-25-2019, 03:51 PM
 
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Frankfurt "main" as you call it: average monthly rent 868.91€

https://www.studying-in-germany.org/...ent-in-germany
Yea in the heart of one of the biggest cities in Germany. How much would rent cost in manhattan ... san fran?

So basicly rent in the most central largest city is the price of a medium to large town in the USA ...
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Old 12-25-2019, 03:53 PM
 
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The poor probably work harder than your "super talented people" and for the most part they do so without complaining.
They may not complain but they are starting to learn to vote in their own best interests. Also the "super talented people" the other poster speaks of are not what you think it is, its not scientists, inventor, most doctors. Its people who know how to move and manipulate money, markets and companies, these are not real skills that add value but rather extract value out of others.

Its esentually value theft.
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