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Old 01-18-2020, 01:38 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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He could try Santa Fe, NM, which has tons of culture, it's Art Central, second only to NYC in art sales (NYC sells more in volume, SF more in $$), has a symphony and a chamber music orchestra as well as various popular and experimental forms of music, an opera house, etc. etc. It's only missing "temperate" winters, though the winters are much milder than they used to be. If he can compromise on just that one thing, he might find a place where he'd be happy. That's probably true of other options, as well.

California without the price; that doesn't exist, but there are places that are close.

Bonus to a smaller city: no traffic jams!
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Old 01-18-2020, 01:48 PM
 
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How about a less expensive California city like Ventura, sonoma or Paso Robles. Did someone mention Alexandria. In Florida st Pete’s might work.
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Old 01-18-2020, 01:53 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I would say he should give the Florida Gulf Coast a try, maybe Tampa if he likes city life. I'm headed there myself in another 12 years. Ocala area, about an hour and a half north of Tampa. Horse country, fairly rural, warm and a low cost of living. That's the place for me!!
I visited Tampa, Clearwater Beach and Siesta Beach a couple of years ago during the winter. Those felt like some nice areas.

Don't know how they are in the warmer months or hurricane season though.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:20 PM
 
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...Culture? WTF is culture exactly? ...going to some snooty museum to see a painting of a sunset by some long dead artist?
Yes.
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Old 01-18-2020, 08:29 PM
 
Location: NYC
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/reti...-go/ar-BBZ3Tfl

I like how this guy wants to stretch his money, which could be done practically anywhere in the country besides southern California, Bay Area, or NYC itself, but then he wants "year-round temperate weather with easy access to culture, food, art, music, and health care."

There are a good 30-50 cities that can offer him the culture, food, art, music, and health care pieces. But the "year round temperate weather" will be a harder find. I'm assuming that means he neither wants snowy or cold wet winters nor hot and/or humid summers. That eliminates a huge swath of the world. I mean, San Diego or Orange County come to mind for me, but he wants somewhere he can retire nicely on 3.5M. He can retire cheap, or he can move to a cheaper area where access to culture, art, and music is more occasional.

He wants essentially California, but doesn't want to pay for it. He can choose several of those thing for cheap but not all of them put together. That's what world class cities offer and is why they're expensive. LOL! This reminds me of a couple posters here who wanted it all without paying for it, and cried about the unfairness of the world as a result.
The biggest leash with big cities is the services can't be gotten elsewhere. If you're over 45 and you may think you're in good health but if you're not and health is slipping. By 50 it will show itself if you have underlying conditions.

That's when being in a big city helps, you can call a few places and have an appointment lined up within 1-2 weeks of a specialist. In many small cities you'll be fed up with not being able to find a good doctor especially pediatricians for kids if your child has issues. That's where being in a big cities has its benefits of having long list of doctors to choose.
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Old 01-18-2020, 09:34 PM
 
Location: The Berk in Denver, CO USA
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Lisboa, Portugal
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Old 01-19-2020, 12:11 PM
 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/reti...-go/ar-BBZ3Tfl

I like how this guy wants to stretch his money, which could be done practically anywhere in the country besides southern California, Bay Area, or NYC itself, but then he wants "year-round temperate weather with easy access to culture, food, art, music, and health care."

There are a good 30-50 cities that can offer him the culture, food, art, music, and health care pieces. But the "year round temperate weather" will be a harder find. I'm assuming that means he neither wants snowy or cold wet winters nor hot and/or humid summers. That eliminates a huge swath of the world. I mean, San Diego or Orange County come to mind for me, but he wants somewhere he can retire nicely on 3.5M. He can retire cheap, or he can move to a cheaper area where access to culture, art, and music is more occasional.

He wants essentially California, but doesn't want to pay for it. He can choose several of those thing for cheap but not all of them put together. That's what world class cities offer and is why they're expensive. LOL! This reminds me of a couple posters here who wanted it all without paying for it, and cried about the unfairness of the world as a result.
Florida
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However, no matter where you go, don't bring your liberal political views (assuming you are a Democrat), otherwise if enough people like you flee a highly taxed state, you will doom your new state to go down the same path.


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Old 01-19-2020, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Was Midvalley Oregon; Now Eastside Seattle area
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He could try Santa Fe, NM, which has tons of culture, it's Art Central, second only to NYC in art sales (NYC sells more in volume, SF more in $$), has a symphony and a chamber music orchestra as well as various popular and experimental forms of music, an opera house, etc. etc. It's only missing "temperate" winters, though the winters are much milder than they used to be. If he can compromise on just that one thing, he might find a place where he'd be happy. That's probably true of other options, as well.

California without the price; that doesn't exist, but there are places that are close.

Bonus to a smaller city: no traffic jams!
Sante Fe.
Interesting place, especially Meow Wolf.
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Old 01-19-2020, 02:20 PM
 
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Florida
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However, no matter where you go, don't bring your liberal political views (assuming you are a Democrat), otherwise if enough people like you flee a highly taxed state, you will doom your new state to go down the same path.
For some of us, Florida is a bit challenging for half of the year. One presumes that having amassed a tidy sum, and reached some advanced level of achievement in life, it's best to not voluntarily subject oneself to such challenges.

As for the political views, I'd like to interject, that these fall broadly into two aspects: money, and culture. Those who flee a high-tax state and migrate to a lower-tax one, would indeed to best, but acceding to the attitudes towards money, as found in their new locale. But what of the cultural attitudes?
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Old 01-19-2020, 04:51 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Coastal Oregon and perhaps somewhere in the southwest (NV, AZ and NM) might be his best options.

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He could try Santa Fe, NM, which has tons of culture, it's Art Central, second only to NYC in art sales (NYC sells more in volume, SF more in $$), has a symphony and a chamber music orchestra as well as various popular and experimental forms of music, an opera house, etc. etc. It's only missing "temperate" winters, though the winters are much milder than they used to be. If he can compromise on just that one thing, he might find a place where he'd be happy. That's probably true of other options, as well.

California without the price; that doesn't exist, but there are places that are close.

Bonus to a smaller city: no traffic jams!
Are the "boondocks" of California also pricey?
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