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Old 04-23-2020, 05:32 AM
 
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The thing is, the lockdowns are killing businesses that were doing the best they ever had just 6 weeks ago. My wife's work, and indeed the whole town, were not long ago talking about their best revenues ever and hiring more people. Now they are boarded up, shut down as if a war just happened.
Throughout the ages, capitalism has had to contend with manmade and nature born disasters. There are always risks either created by man or nature.

The capitalists were not bailed out in the past when governments created wars, upset the markets, imposed quarantines that harmed their business.

They were told to deal with it.

But it seems capitalists these days do not want to pay for any of the risks but collect all the rewards.
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Old 04-23-2020, 05:40 AM
 
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It is not the small town that has somehow failed. It's the leadership quote unquote who have failed. Governors, mayors, presidents, sitting in their offices and making pronouncements on who shall live, who shall die. By that I mean, who is "unnecessary" and who is "necessary."

The small business that was created out of nothing is necessary. The income that pays the bills is necessary.



Trump already goes without a paycheck, he said from the beginning he'd donate it.

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Lets compare Trumps Paycheck he lost to the revenue he gets from tax payers for his business.
Thats a pretty sweet gig and unusual for presidents.

It is like the owner of a large defense company becomes president and is gungho for wars.
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Old 04-23-2020, 09:37 AM
 
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Trump already goes without a paycheck, he said from the beginning he'd donate it.
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Trump going without a paycheck for being president is a little misleading though...
Yes, it is, since as of the last time I looked around there was no confirmation of him doing so or to whom he might be donating it. I suspect his tax returns will eventually show that his 'charitable' giving is somewhere between nil and to very, very self-serving causes.


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[indent][i]Dawna Shackley invested her life savings last year to open a graphic design and printing shop, Newfound Impressions. Business was going well, allowing her to hire her first employee in January.
The vast majority of "graphic designers" are kitchen-table amateurs, or the next thing to it, and hiring and employment in the field often resembles a cross between day labor from the Home Depot parking lot and indentured servitude. I am unsurprised a minor player hired a helper and then dumped her the minute no clients were on hand. That's almost... dignified behavior in that game, all the way up to corporate gigs.
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Old 04-23-2020, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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"Escape small towns" where people take a day or weekend away from urban areas will always rebound as will those with a purpose with a college/university, predominate thriving corporation or an established well-off bedroom community. For the rest, it could be ugly for a long time....if not forever.
Small towns that are still doing well never left their economic roots in the surrounding countryside. It is the food, fiber and minerals from the land that are the lifeblood of small towns. The ones that survive by proximity to population centers are no longer small towns, they are suburbs.
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Old 04-23-2020, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Many businesses have been hand-to-mouth for so long it is a common business model (the entire arline industry is that way ... the bailout is giving $5.8 billion to United Airlines at a time when the entire company could be bought for less than that, based on stock price). The idea of lookng beyond quarterly earnings is so baked into America's business mentality that even small business owners have to play by those rules to keep up. No time to invest for research ... profits today over stability tomorrow. Our leadership class is dominated by people born on third base who think they hit a triple.
Airlines spent billions of dollars pumping their stock prices with buybacks so stockholders could pay capital gains instead of income tax. Then the money disappeared. I bet those stockholders wish they had taken dividends instead.
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Old 04-23-2020, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Trump did not run for POTUS to get rich. He was already rich. The dribbles coming in to his properties are not going to up his net wealth significantly, if at all. That is a red herring argument.
We may find out next month if he was ever really that rich. The Supreme Court rules on whether he has to comply with congressional subpoenas of his tax returns and financials, I think on May 12.
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Old 04-23-2020, 07:19 PM
 
Location: In the Pearl of the Purchase, Ky
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I live in a small town of a little over 10,000 and the population of the county is around 37,000. One of our largest employers is Pilgrim's Pride chicken processing plant. They had a few cases of the virus pop up at the plant but they keep running chickens. The other big industry in the county is agriculture. Plenty of farmers. One thing I like about living in a small town is how we support our businesses. Restaurants can stay open but only for take out and home delivery. I've talked to people working at 3 locally owned restaurants and people are running them ragged. One is getting so many people calling in orders that they had to give out their cell phone number also so they wouldn't miss any calls. Several of these locally owned places are helping others out. The hospital had to close their cafeteria so some places are fixing plate lunches and sandwiches and delivering them to the hospital doors. A lady I know of who has a lady's clothing consignment shop took her business online when the doors had to close. She said business definitely isn't as good as walk in, but she's making it. Good to see everybody helping out.
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Old 04-23-2020, 09:10 PM
 
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Small towns that are still doing well never left their economic roots in the surrounding countryside. It is the food, fiber and minerals from the land that are the lifeblood of small towns. The ones that survive by proximity to population centers are no longer small towns, they are suburbs.
Sure, like all the coal towns.

Nostalgic nonsense. Very few small towns have a solid economic base that can't be closed at a whim of the parent corporation.
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Old 04-24-2020, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Sure, like all the coal towns.

Nostalgic nonsense. Very few small towns have a solid economic base that can't be closed at a whim of the parent corporation.
What did these coal towns do with all their timber? Orchards? Truck farms? Cattle ranches? Fisheries? Small scale manufacturing? If they abandoned the wealth of the surrounding land, they deserve to die. Heck, if they are mining coal they can go amber and fossil picking and make tens of thousands of dollars a year. What about brush picking? Mushroom farming or wild picking?

Urbanoids imagine that if they can't find a payroll they can't make a living. That's nonsense. An endless stream of wealth flows off the land if you are smart enough to work it.
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Old 04-24-2020, 08:46 AM
 
Location: mancos
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My small town is doing fine.Mostly family ranches and farms,logging and small wood mills.No big business or chains at all except the little post office.
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