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Old 04-30-2020, 09:17 PM
 
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My developing personal theory is that the early outbreaks, such as China, Italy and the cruise ships were hard and brutal. There was no immunity and no experience with how to handle it. By the time it was a known quantity in the mainland U.S. and other European countries there had been some advance virus spread, not in loads sufficient to sicken, that started conferring some immunity. When the virus hit weakened populations, such as nursing homes, the homeless and other underclass situations, unfortunately, it hit harder and the suffering was greater.

I just lost a law client yesterday or the day before to it. I last saw that client in December when I wrapped up a matter for him. Though he was not explicitly ill, he did not look like the picture of health.
Great theory but the scientists who know about this stuff have not concluded that any immunity at all results from having the virus and if it does how strong it is or how long lasting.
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Old 04-30-2020, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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WHO has now endorsed the Sweden method of handling CV19.
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Old 04-30-2020, 09:48 PM
 
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WHO has now endorsed the Sweden method of handling CV19.
Ummm, yeah - they got some splainin' to do. Sweden now has a 26% infection rate. As a reference New York's rate is 21%.
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Old 05-01-2020, 05:18 AM
 
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Yes, Sweden has a higher infection rate, but they didnt ruin their economy or add a huge amount of debt to their balance sheet. The point of Sweden is that quarantines dont work, especially the way we did it in USA, which really was not a quarantine. (Many going to work and shopping). Quarantines usually only mandate that the sick people stay away.

Plus now its been discovered that young children are in no danger from CV19. Its almost never makes them sick. So closing schools was useless and unnecessary.
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Old 05-01-2020, 05:37 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Quarantines usually only mandate that the sick people stay away.
That works well when you CAN know who is infected and/or a carrier

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Plus now its been discovered that young children are in no danger from CV19.
Setting aside what a 'discovery' or 'proven' might mean to you...
And the adults in their orbit? Teachers? Bus drivers? Lunch ladies? Friends parents? Relatives?
Do these also have no danger from being around potential infection?
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:18 AM
 
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Yes, Sweden has a higher infection rate, but they didnt ruin their economy or add a huge amount of debt to their balance sheet. The point of Sweden is that quarantines dont work, especially the way we did it in USA, which really was not a quarantine. (Many going to work and shopping). Quarantines usually only mandate that the sick people stay away.

Plus now its been discovered that young children are in no danger from CV19. Its almost never makes them sick. So closing schools was useless and unnecessary.
Closing schools was not to protect children, it was to protect the family members of those children who often carry it silently. I think less danger is more accurate than saying no danger. A five-year-old little girl with no other conditions, the daughter of a firefighter and a cop in Michigan died from Covid a week or 2 ago.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:44 AM
 
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Are Red State Governors who resisted lock downs vindicated with the lower than predicted death totals?

Apparently Florida has been caught squelching and suppressing their true COVID numbers. If the low numbers vindicated them, they wouldn't try to hide them would they?

I find it odd that neighboring Georgia has a death rate that is double that of Florida's, despite the much higher senior population in Florida.
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Old 05-01-2020, 09:37 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Great theory but the scientists who know about this stuff have not concluded that any immunity at all results from having the virus and if it does how strong it is or how long lasting.
For what it's worth I unfortunately tested negative for antibodies.

There is a role for scientific research but it is not for an emergency situation. When there is a tornado approaching or building on fire you make snap judgments. Those need to be made on lockdowns since both the lockdowns and the pandemic are equivalent to fires and tornadoes.
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Old 05-01-2020, 10:19 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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When there is a tornado approaching or building on fire you make snap judgments.
I sure hope not. Sensible, reasonable and prompt are what matters.

(No... you're NOT going to dig yourself out from the positions you've taken)
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Old 05-01-2020, 10:52 AM
 
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Ummm, yeah - they got some splainin' to do. Sweden now has a 26% infection rate. As a reference New York's rate is 21%.
Don't you want a higher infection rate and a lower death rate? Seems to me that would be a good thing.

New York has a ~21% infection rate and ~24k deaths with a population of ~19.5 million. Sweden has a ~26% infection rate and ~2.6k deaths with a population of ~10.5 million and they haven't shut anything down.

It's clearly too early to see which response will be better, but I wouldn't say a high infection rate is a bad thing.
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