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Old 06-04-2020, 10:31 AM
Status: "Daring to hope" (set 26 days ago)
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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A lot of people have filed for unemployment and never received a penny yet even though they should qualify. Some of those people had nice jobs and had nice cars.

I went to the food bank yesterday. There was a long line of mostly nice vehicles. A lot of people are out of work around here. Not everyone is receiving the unemployment. Grocery stores still want some form of payment for the food they sell. Some people who are maxing out their credit cards to buy food.
Where are you? Here in NJ there was a lot of trouble with the UI system. They showed a mile-long line on the news for food boxes for the casino workers. That was about a month ago, though.
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Old 06-04-2020, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Nursing home death traps are a small part of it

The bigger issue is that it's the most densely populated city in the country, has the most international flights arriving than anywhere else and it shut down too late.

If it shut down earlier we would have saved more lives and done less economic damage

And now somehow protesters and looters are allowed in mass gatherings but small businesses still can't open.Apparently covid doesn't impact protesters only every other large group of people.
One, First Amendment. I LONG asked why we didn't do it with the terrorists... I mean protesters that entered the Michigan state house. We didn't do that for any of the Operation Gridlock even if they blocked ambulances from the hospitals. Two, do we have enough police to do that for all protestors, especially just peaceful protesters? I have no problem jailing the looters, but a good chunk of protesters are non-violent. Yet that don't stop the President having Barr use the DCPD as his goon squad.
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Old 06-04-2020, 10:45 AM
 
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I see feds putting people back to work with infrastructure projects and social programs to get Americans on their feet. I bet you'll start hearing plans for high speed regional train projects. Plans for more hospitals.... Etc simply I see the Fed telling Americans to back to work with a hard hat. Is the work long range temp work of course but it's a more logical bandaid until people can figure it out
I truly hope this comes to be and people are put back to work for the good of our future.
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Old 06-04-2020, 10:56 AM
 
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I couldn't agree more. Many Republicans think the UE numbers are high simply because many lower wage workers don't want to return to work due to the fact that their UE is more than their pay. But the jobs just aren't there. Many businesses have closed down, and the ones that have not are not going to be in a hurry to hire at their former staff capacity when they are getting by on half that (or less). Oh, and of course, fewer people are traveling, eating out, etc. - basically, not spending as much money.
They always claim poor people are just lazy and don't want to work.
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Old 06-04-2020, 10:56 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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That is horrible. That is worse than Lyndsey Graham renewing UE "over our dead bodies" comment. Anyways, with stocks rising again, those hurting people are not going to see a dime. It is my belief that no aid to the UE will be passed as long as stocks are rising. It is a shame for the lower income folks, mostly in the hospitality industry as another poster mentioned.

I also do not believe another stimulus check will be passed as long as stocks are up, despite the high UE numbers we are going to see for awhile.
Andddddd Kennedy steps in it again, now he's comparing the plight of struggling Americans to his son asking for a Porsche for his birthday.
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“We’re never going to recover economically from the pandemic if everybody is at home watching Netflix. The way we’re doing it now … has as much chance of passing as my son has of getting a Porsche for his birthday. Not going to happen. Nonnegotiable.” - Sen. John Neely Kennedy (R-Louisiana)
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...dilemma-299407

You know how the saying goes: REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER (I sure will, this ex-Republican will likely vote for Joe Biden).

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Old 06-04-2020, 11:01 AM
 
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Where are you? Here in NJ there was a lot of trouble with the UI system. They showed a mile-long line on the news for food boxes for the casino workers. That was about a month ago, though.
KY. A lot of people here still have not received unemployment. Some have said they applied way back in March and still haven't received anything.
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Old 06-04-2020, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Andddddd Kennedy steps in it again, now he's comparing the plight of struggling Americans to his son asking for a Porsche for his birthday.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...dilemma-299407

You know how the saying goes: REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER (I sure will, this ex-Republican will likely vote for Joe Biden).
To reply to Joe. The large reason people were at home watching Netflix (or the unmentioned Disney+) was because they had to possibly cut cable TV package during the pandemic closures and still now while they waited to hear if their company would reopen and if it did, if they were needed to go back to work. Not all companies needed to bring everyone back, at least until Phase 3 (if we ever get to that point.) Others worked at home and didn't have a commute, so they had more time to do other things. My brother started work for a pretty well known investment bank about the time of the pandemic. In April he started working from home and he loves it for the lack of commute. Before and after working 10 hours a day, you don't realize how taxing driving is until you don't need to do it. His commute is now a minute as oppose to say twenty to thirty minutes before.

What I really hear from a LOT of Republicans and conservatives is "Let them eat cake." They act like a bunch of cakeeaters. They want the economy back open at all costs. The fact is even if we tried herd immunity (which wouldn't work in America due to lack of beds as we saw with several of the surges in metro areas both big and small), we would likely crash the economy. The supporters of Sweden neglect to comment that Sweden's economy still took a hit. The economy crashed not just because of the pandemic, but due to the lack of planning and foresight by a Republican president. A number of Republican Senators (enough for the Democrats to win control of the Senate) are likely to lose (Loeffler of GA, McSally of AZ and Gardner of CO.)
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Old 06-04-2020, 12:58 PM
 
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Apparently, the $ 600 bonus is keeping some people from returning to work though their jobs are available. This is one of those unforeseen circumstances which occur when a safety net becomes a hammock.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...PLK?li=BBnb7Kz
I have already sworn off any "wants" for the foreseeable future, I am anticipating helping my mother pay bills and household expenses in the event her employer doesn't call her back to work, and would be happy to do it.

Our governor stated employees collecting UI due to a COVID-related shutdown were exempt from the work search requirement because they were anticipating returning as many people as possible to the same employer from which they were laid off.
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Old 06-04-2020, 01:04 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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To reply to Joe. The large reason people were at home watching Netflix (or the unmentioned Disney+) was because they had to possibly cut cable TV package during the pandemic closures and still now while they waited to hear if their company would reopen and if it did, if they were needed to go back to work. Not all companies needed to bring everyone back, at least until Phase 3 (if we ever get to that point.) Others worked at home and didn't have a commute, so they had more time to do other things. My brother started work for a pretty well known investment bank about the time of the pandemic. In April he started working from home and he loves it for the lack of commute. Before and after working 10 hours a day, you don't realize how taxing driving is until you don't need to do it. His commute is now a minute as oppose to say twenty to thirty minutes before.

What I really hear from a LOT of Republicans and conservatives is "Let them eat cake." They act like a bunch of cakeeaters. They want the economy back open at all costs. The fact is even if we tried herd immunity (which wouldn't work in America due to lack of beds as we saw with several of the surges in metro areas both big and small), we would likely crash the economy. The supporters of Sweden neglect to comment that Sweden's economy still took a hit. The economy crashed not just because of the pandemic, but due to the lack of planning and foresight by a Republican president. A number of Republican Senators (enough for the Democrats to win control of the Senate) are likely to lose (Loeffler of GA, McSally of AZ and Gardner of CO.)
The Republicans seem oblivious that their Senate majority is in danger. I think McSally, Gardner, and Collins are toast no matter what, should they refuse to extend the PPP or send out a second round of $1,200 stimulus checks I think states like Georgia, Iowa, Kentucky, North Carolina, and perhaps even Kansas (if Kobach gets the nomination) could be flipped. That said, on the other side of the aisle I think Doug Jones in Alabama is toast as well.
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Old 06-04-2020, 02:14 PM
 
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The food banks don’t screen for anything, so anyone can participate. Federal and state programs require the recipient to provide proof regarding their current economic situation before being deemed eligible.
The food banks here screen everyone. The one in the town I used to live in wouldn't even help you unless you had shown proof that you at least applied for food stamps first, and then they would only help you once every three months.
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